Anyone Else Considering the FT-86 Convertible?

[matadormi5]

Originally Posted by Dark

I don't like the idea of making too many variants of the car. At best, 2 seater stripped down and 2+2 Coupe. I kid.
Honestly, there is no point to make a sedan version for the car, convertible is meh. If the company think that they spend too much money on the R&D, they can use the chassis to develop a new sedan/wagon/watever or replace the existing model's chassis. Toyota use Camry's Chassis for almost everything in the line up, so they can do the same to FT-86's Chassis. I don't see why not.

Yeah, I don't want to see a bunch of 86's either. Sedan 86, Convertible 86, station-wagon 86, minivan 86....good god NO!

Who knows what Toyabaru has planned. I like your idea of using technology and etc they got from developing this car and making the other cars in the line better.

future will tell though.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by matadormi5

Yeah, I don't want to see a bunch of 86's either. Sedan 86, Convertible 86, station-wagon 86, minivan 86....good god NO!

Who knows what Toyabaru has planned. I like your idea of using technology and etc they got from developing this car and making the other cars in the line better.

future will tell though.

In that case, I would like to see how they put LFA's tech to a good use.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Dark

In that case, I would like to see how they put LFA's tech to a good use.

Oh yeah, carbon/aluminum chassis. FT-86 ending up weighing the same as the AE86. Imagine the dealer markups and waiting list for that car.

Oddly enough (but hopefully not odd at all) the FT86c in GT5's power output per cylinder is pretty much the same as the LFA. And the FT86c's got almost the same displacement per cylinder, which means it would rev similarly to make the 220 HP. They could make this thing truly epic if they could make a sales/profit case for it.

[matadormi5]

Originally Posted by Dark

In that case, I would like to see how they put LFA's tech to a good use.

Racing and Super-cars are like a brand's test bed for go-fast tech and innovation, then they all eventually get perfected and the cost to produce goes down enough to be adapt them for use in everyday commuter cars.

Example, carbon-ceramic brakes were first applied to racing cars then trickled down to production super-cars. We may even see carbon brakes on a Civic one day.

Innovation from developing the LFA will definitely find it's way to the FT-86. No matter what these may be, I don't think anyone will complain.

[70NYD]

they will make sales if they regulate the dealer markups. one thing i never understood is the stupidity in greed.. everyone wants to make the most profit, but thats found in turnover rather thaqn selling profit (eg why fiat owns Ferrari :p)

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by matadormi5

Yeah, I don't want to see a bunch of 86's either. Sedan 86, Convertible 86, station-wagon 86, minivan 86....good god NO!

Who knows what Toyabaru has planned. I like your idea of using technology and etc they got from developing this car and making the other cars in the line better.

future will tell though.

If anything capitalizing on the 86 would be a good thing, but more likely just a sedan for Lexus and a smaller roadster. Toyota has a flagship in the LF-A, the 86 could fill the role of reinvigorating the brand and bring some sportiness to it. Most companies produce almost entirely FWD cars with a "sporty" version. The 86 is RWD, and entering the market where FWD dominates and holds all the competitive advantages. The only way to keep the 86 when the hype fades would be to spread the platform out to take advantage of it's advantages; RWD, a compact engine, a responsive/stiff chassis, and a likeable even lovable engine note.

And in essence the Sedan wouldn't be the 86 nor the roadster they would just be built on the same platform. And in reality the 86 platform is based on the Legacy.

Think Fords' Mustang, Mazda's Miata or Rotaries, Nissan's Z cars. Something that lasts and is still fun to drive.

[matadormi5]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

If anything capitalizing on the 86 would be a good thing, but more likely just a sedan for Lexus and a smaller roadster. Toyota has a flagship in the LF-A, the 86 could fill the role of reinvigorating the brand and bring some sportiness to it. Most companies produce almost entirely FWD cars with a "sporty" version. The 86 is RWD, and entering the market where FWD dominates and holds all the competitive advantages. The only way to keep the 86 when the hype fades would be to spread the platform out to take advantage of it's advantages; RWD, a compact engine, a responsive/stiff chassis, and a likeable even lovable engine note.

And in essence the Sedan wouldn't be the 86 nor the roadster they would just be built on the same platform. And in reality the 86 platform is based on the Legacy.

Think Fords' Mustang, Mazda's Miata or Rotaries, Nissan's Z cars. Something that lasts and is still fun to drive.

I'm certain Toyota will/has considered to put 86 blood into their line-up. They need to make money after all, and if the FT-86 is as good a car as we all here hope it is, it would be smart to use what they learned and make new and improved things.

I'm just saying I don't like the idea of a whole line-up of FT-86's on their own. "This is the all new Toyota FT-86 van, and next to it, the all new FT-86 sedan."

On contrast, it would be entirely cool if they were able to put some FT-86 character into their next Sienna or Camry etc etc.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by matadormi5

I'm certain Toyota will/has considered to put 86 blood into their line-up. They need to make money after all, and if the FT-86 is as good a car as we all here hope it is, it would be smart to use what they learned and make new and improved things.

I'm just saying I don't like the idea of a whole line-up of FT-86's on their own. "This is the all new Toyota FT-86 van, and next to it, the all new FT-86 sedan."

On contrast, it would be entirely cool if they were able to put some FT-86 character into their next Sienna or Camry etc etc.

Well you've got nothing to worry about there, Toyota is using the Prius for a mini-van.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

If anything capitalizing on the 86 would be a good thing, but more likely just a sedan for Lexus and a smaller roadster. Toyota has a flagship in the LF-A, the 86 could fill the role of reinvigorating the brand and bring some sportiness to it. Most companies produce almost entirely FWD cars with a "sporty" version. The 86 is RWD, and entering the market where FWD dominates and holds all the competitive advantages. The only way to keep the 86 when the hype fades would be to spread the platform out to take advantage of it's advantages; RWD, a compact engine, a responsive/stiff chassis, and a likeable even lovable engine note.

And in essence the Sedan wouldn't be the 86 nor the roadster they would just be built on the same platform. And in reality the 86 platform is based on the Legacy.

Think Fords' Mustang, Mazda's Miata or Rotaries, Nissan's Z cars. Something that lasts and is still fun to drive.

This is an excellent point, particularly the Z reference. Nissan/Infiniti used the Z chassis for the basis of many excellent vehicles. The 350Z, G35 coupe & sedan, FX35/45, Murano, M35/45 (?), EX35, all shared the fundamental platform that started with the Z car.

I've said it before that a next-gen Lexus IS on this chassis would be a good idea.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by Dimman

This is an excellent point, particularly the Z reference. Nissan/Infiniti used the Z chassis for the basis of many excellent vehicles. The 350Z, G35 coupe & sedan, FX35/45, Murano, M35/45 (?), EX35, all shared the fundamental platform that started with the Z car.

I've said it before that a next-gen Lexus IS on this chassis would be a good idea.

Anything sport and light is always good. Like I said before, IS is too heavy for a little sedan. If it uses a sportier and lighter chassis, IS will surely attract enthusiasts rather than some kids, ladies and old folks, who only have money to spend but have no taste.

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

And in reality the 86 platform is based on the Legacy.

Only thing I disagreed on. The 86 lead engineers have already stated that the FT-86 platform was built from the ground up specifically for this car.

And honestly, how can you compare the 86 to the Legacy in those terms? They're not even close.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Only thing I disagreed on. The 86 lead engineers have already stated that the FT-86 platform was built from the ground up specifically for this car.

And honestly, how can you compare the 86 to the Legacy in those terms? They're not even close.

When/where did they say that? I know the engine was ground up but the chassis was based on a shortened version of the legacy platform . Maybe I'm thinking of the franken-prototype.

[70NYD]

It was stated in one of the vids and press releases ages ago..
The chassis is based on the shortened version yes, but it has nothing to do with it