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What the underground public have been craving for is someone to have the balls to bring back another well balanced N/A machine that didn't conform to today's standards of power. What Tada-san has done was exactly that. As long as Mr.Toyoda and Tada-san are in charge I don't ever foresee Toyota personally releasing an FI model. I don't think I'll be eating my words because here's why: The biggest piece of evidence is the number of high profile tuners that already have the car to play with. Toyota is taking the old school approach where they're supplying a great car foundation and letting the tuning companies develop/build/and test whatever people want added to the car. Be it turbo's, superchargers, or hideous suicide doors. This is not only a revival of a great once thought extinct platform, but a whole underground tuning culture from the 80's and 90's. Of course, everything I've said here is all purely speculation. But I'm sure I'm not the only one that's developed this mindset after following this car for so long. Bonus: whenever I start doubting myself, this old interview always puts my mind at ease. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...tada+interview -Cheers.
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I am at least gonna wait till Dec of this year to see if there is still price flux...
and to see if Supply had caught up to demand ... I won't be able to afford the vehicle unless Subaru offers 0.9 finance or something to that extend.
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the temptation for Subaru to not add more power and jump up and compete with a Z will be too much to resist. The interior quality is already on par so a 70-80hp jump would make it very competitive. Figure you add $4k for the turbo model and you still undercut a base Z by several thousand dollars. plus I believe it has already been stated that the new stand alone WRX will be using a turbo charged variant of this same engine. That is a lot of money to invest and not use it on all the platforms possible. Pretty safe to say that engine won't end up in a forester so that leaves Subaru only 1 place to put it. |
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when they first announced the car I wasn't so sure that more power would ever be available, but when Subaru announced that a turbo fa-20 will be developed there was no doubt in my mind that an sti version will be available. |
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another question to consider is whether scion will offer a bolt on super charger kit like they did for the tc. It would be a total departure for scion to offer a second trim line so any power upgrade from them will likely come in that form. Its possible/likely that the kit could also bolt onto a brz although you wouldn't get the warranty fr-s owners do.
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i agree!! doing everything yourself in building your car.... YOUR way is much better!! also I'm not going to wait!! i'm getting it right when it comes out!! but the BRZ not the FRS
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I guess I would say that there is no point in waiting if I was getting an fr-s because I don't think that there will be any changes until the mid cycle refresh.
if price is important to you there is also no point in waiting since each model year will be more expensive and a turbo version will be more expensive still |
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Honda: I doubt they will make a RWD sports compact. If they do, it'll probably be ugly as sin.
Nissan: A Silvia wouldn't be too much of a stretch, but with the 370Z, I don't think it is likely. Mazda: New Miata worth waiting for if you think you might want a roadster. New RX7 seems to be unlikely due to financial constraints. Chevy: Most likely to produce a direct FRS/BRZ competitor with the Code 130R, but still not very likely. |
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after the dismal failure of the solstice and sky gm won't be taking any gambles on a small low volume rwd coupe. They already have the camaro which has a much wider appeal in this country compared to the niche market the brz fills. Nissan is also in no position to make another impractical rwd car. All it would do is eat into 370Z sales which starts at $31k. If you want something cheaper they will sell you an altima coupe. the only reason to wait on buying is for a more powerful version of this car as there is nothing even in the rumor mill about a competing product from another mfr. |
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Chevy will jump in too, but with a much cheaper car. Whoever can get closer to $20k and still have some form of handling magic will be a winner! The as1 is going to start a renaissance in small lightweight rwd sports cars. |
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All the stars seemed to align for the BRZ/FR-S... Wonder if another manufacturer can get close.
6 months ago nobody really knew what to expect. I still can't believe that it's essentially been all great news the last 3 months. |
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Chevy doesn't have the platform anymore for a RWD car this small (kappa died in 2009 with pontiac and saturn) and they certainly aren't going to come up with a new one just to sell 5000 cars a year. If chevy does try to get back into the game it will be a fwd vehicle derived from one of their existing cars and that won't excite anyone here. |
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i usually wait a month when new cars come out to check the reviews
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