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Old 07-05-2018, 06:36 PM   #43
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Preface, haven't driven the newer GTI:

While I'm sure the GTI would be fun to drive, a lot of cars are, I prefer to stick with the formula I like:
- Lightweight
- RWD
- 2 doors
- Manual Trans

Creature comforts and "more vehicle for the $$" isn't as important. Of course I have a budget, sure. But seats, tech, comfort, dash materials, interior colors, etc are not weighing on my decision. There could be other vehicles in the mid-$20k range that could have offered more in this sense.


On another note, I have owned a VW before. Much like you are weary of the reliability now after your incident, I find things engineered by Toyota or Subaru in general to be far more reliable than VW.

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Old 07-08-2018, 06:49 PM   #44
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Man, every once in a while an 86 might break and require a $7k new engine, but a GTI is gonna cost you that much over a few years in replacement engine sensors :P
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Old 07-09-2018, 07:53 PM   #45
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Man, every once in a while an 86 might break and require a $7k new engine, but a GTI is gonna cost you that much over a few years in replacement engine sensors :P
I've been vdubs for 25 years. This is likely true.

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Old 08-19-2018, 06:06 PM   #46
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I've driven, but not owned both, and keep surfing the ft86 forum...


The gti is a grocery getter with enough engine to overwhelm the chassis.


The twins are a sweet balanced sports car. No comparison.
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Old 08-20-2018, 02:32 AM   #47
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I drove the new GTI SE in the 6sp. Great car but as others have said I rather have a twin. RWD, light weight, and just a ton of fun. Add a few mods and the car really comes alive. I would also recommend find a used twin. You can save alot of money. Just gotta look around.
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When the twins were first introduced the difference with the GTI wasn't really big. The GTI engine had 209PS and more torque, but the weight to power ratio was better for our cars. The things changed radically after some years with the engine revisions of the GTI and the addition of new models. Check the engine output increases below:

220PS GTI
230PS GTI Performance
245PS GTI Performance +'17
265PS GTI Clubsport
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And then you tune the ECU and reach 300hp on pump without changing anything else.
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The GTI is a piece of shit, like every other Volkswagen. Seriously, they are garbage cars.
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The GTI is a piece of shit, like every other Volkswagen. Seriously, they are garbage cars.
A tuned mk7 gti is far from a piece of shit lol

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