Can any tuners disable TC/VDC? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

himbo · 01-05-2014, 04:07 PM

I have a miserable time trying to get through the snow. I tried to disable TC/VDC and it wouldn't stay disabled.

Sometimes a little bit of slip is needed to keep momentum, and the nannies would intervene and make it impossible. I know there's a pedal dance to help put the braking system in diagnostic mode- and thereby disabling the TC/VDC systems- but I don't like the idea of not having ABS in these conditions.

My question for the tuners is - are there any tunes you can set up to allow us the ability to 100% disable the nannies? I'm not sure if TC/VDC are controlled by the ECU or another control module- but if they are, can you create tunes that will allow us to disable the systems completely when we turn off the TC button?

Thanks!

Sinan

jamesm · 01-05-2014, 07:05 PM

none of the currently available software packages offer anything that would allow you to do that.

DeliciousTuning · 01-05-2014, 07:06 PM

I have spoken to EcuTeK about this a few times and they have stated they are not interested in figuring it out at the moment. Though if there is enough people interested and post they might be more willing to do something about it.

Cheers,
William Knose

Ryan86 · 01-05-2014, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himbo

I have a miserable time trying to get through the snow. I tried to disable TC/VDC and it wouldn't stay disabled.

Sometimes a little bit of slip is needed to keep momentum, and the nannies would intervene and make it impossible. I know there's a pedal dance to help put the braking system in diagnostic mode- and thereby disabling the TC/VDC systems- but I don't like the idea of not having ABS in these conditions.

My question for the tuners is - are there any tunes you can set up to allow us the ability to 100% disable the nannies? I'm not sure if TC/VDC are controlled by the ECU or another control module- but if they are, can you create tunes that will allow us to disable the systems completely when we turn off the TC button?

Thanks!

Sinan

Not sure if this will help you.
Push and hold down the TC button for 3 seconds, this disables the TC, you will note the TC light stays on.

enjoyminutemaid · 01-05-2014, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himbo

I have a miserable time trying to get through the snow. I tried to disable TC/VDC and it wouldn't stay disabled.

Sometimes a little bit of slip is needed to keep momentum, and the nannies would intervene and make it impossible. I know there's a pedal dance to help put the braking system in diagnostic mode- and thereby disabling the TC/VDC systems- but I don't like the idea of not having ABS in these conditions.

My question for the tuners is - are there any tunes you can set up to allow us the ability to 100% disable the nannies? I'm not sure if TC/VDC are controlled by the ECU or another control module- but if they are, can you create tunes that will allow us to disable the systems completely when we turn off the TC button?

Thanks!

Sinan

Do you have snow tires? I have General Altimax Arctics in 205/55-16s and I threw 120lbs of cat litter in the back (3x 40lbs unopened bags) and my BRZ rocks in the snow. I never turn off TC or VDC.

StormTrooper · 01-05-2014, 08:51 PM

I have used hankook snows and they suck but with sport mode I do alright.

Boofneenee · 01-05-2014, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan86

Not sure if this will help you.
Push and hold down the TC button for 3 seconds, this disables the TC, you will note the TC light stays on.

really? I never new that.

wparsons · 01-05-2014, 09:01 PM

Holding the TC button for 3-5 seconds is what you want. Also, I don't think the pedal dance disables ABS? I know it disables EBFD, but I'm quite sure it leaves ABS on.

dave77 · 01-05-2014, 09:09 PM

Yea LOL, can't believe people don't know this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons

Holding the TC button for 3-5 seconds is what you want. Also, I don't think the pedal dance disables ABS? I know it disables EBFD, but I'm quite sure it leaves ABS on.

Ryan86 · 01-05-2014, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofneenee

really? I never new that.

Really really

We do this while on the dyno. Take note when you activate again the TC light may stay on for a few 100 meters and then go off.

reardrv · 01-05-2014, 10:38 PM

No one knew to hold the TC button for 3 seconds? lol.

himbo · 01-05-2014, 10:45 PM

sorry pedal dance turns off EBFD. I'm picking snows on Tuesday and holding the TC button down doesn't disable the nannies totally- which is seriously annoying on a car like this. It a damn shame no tuner wants to address this issue

can any tuners chime in?

reardrv · 01-05-2014, 11:08 PM

While I haven't driven mine in the winter much, holding the button down for 3 seconds while stationary does the job for autocross for sure. I have a spin out video to prove it! If you don't hold the button for long enough the traction control will re-engage at 30 something MPH, or when the car thinks its doing 30 something. This has harmed a couple of my initial burn out attempts while trying to kill the stock tires. If you read the owners manual it will give you the exact break down on the TCS functions.

TIE Pilot · 01-05-2014, 11:19 PM

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jamesm Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,929 Thanks: 1,166 Thanked 2,293 Times in 1,180 Posts Mentioned: 313 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	none of the currently available software packages offer anything that would allow you to do that.

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reardrv Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: NH Posts: 109 Thanks: 56 Thanked 40 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No one knew to hold the TC button for 3 seconds? lol.

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himbo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Drives: Lightening Red BRZ Ltd. Location: North Jersey Mutha Luva!!! Posts: 226 Thanks: 67 Thanked 94 Times in 44 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	sorry pedal dance turns off EBFD. I'm picking snows on Tuesday and holding the TC button down doesn't disable the nannies totally- which is seriously annoying on a car like this. It a damn shame no tuner wants to address this issue can any tuners chime in?

01-05-2014, 11:08 PM	#13
reardrv Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: NH Posts: 109 Thanks: 56 Thanked 40 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	While I haven't driven mine in the winter much, holding the button down for 3 seconds while stationary does the job for autocross for sure. I have a spin out video to prove it! If you don't hold the button for long enough the traction control will re-engage at 30 something MPH, or when the car thinks its doing 30 something. This has harmed a couple of my initial burn out attempts while trying to kill the stock tires. If you read the owners manual it will give you the exact break down on the TCS functions.

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