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Old 03-10-2012, 12:05 PM   #15
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Not a review or a test in anyway.. Just another paid ad. Very typical Motortrend. 25k is about 5k too much for the Scion..

I wonder why Toyota/Subaru will not let anyone do a full test?....
Probably because a test would "require" the list price! LOL

Anyway, great post!
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Not a review or a test in anyway.. Just another paid ad. Very typical Motortrend. 25k is about 5k too much for the Scion..
What other car can you get with 6 speed, RWD, 2700 lbs, LSD, bucket seats and handling tailored after the cayman? for $20K, of course lol.
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Old 03-10-2012, 12:14 PM   #17
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What other car can you get with 6 speed, RWD, 2700 lbs, LSD, bucket seats and handling tailored after the cayman? for $20K, of course lol.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...?t=3788&page=7

start at post #132....
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Old 03-10-2012, 12:23 PM   #18
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You guys say 25k is too much for a Scion.

So are you guys saying, if this car was branded as a Toyota with the exact same options, then it would be ok at 25k?
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Am I missing something here? Isn't this the same article that has been available online since December?

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...s_first_drive/

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2794
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You guys say 25k is too much for a Scion.

So are you guys saying, if this car was branded as a Toyota with the exact same options, then it would be ok at 25k?

Not at all; my point is that 25k is too much for what it is; be it a Subaru, Toyota, Scion, or even a Lexus.
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:57 PM   #21
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You trolling?
lol not at all. I should have put the word "eventually" in there. Should be possible with around 350 at the crank. We won't talk about how much it'll cost to get there though , that's why I should have added "eventually"
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Not at all; my point is that 25k is too much for what it is; be it a Subaru, Toyota, Scion, or even a Lexus.

I agree, the FR-S is stripped down. You don't really get much. Its not worth 25K. $22-23K yeah with the bespoke included. Look at all the other scions, they are not as stripped down as the FR-S.

At least start it low and let us add options...but Scion is stuck on its monospec and pure pricing. That is what is really killing the brand. Hopefully the FR-S will keep Scion alive.
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You guys say 25k is too much for a Scion.

So are you guys saying, if this car was branded as a Toyoyes with the exact same options, then it would be ok at 25k?
from what we know the frs will come equipped with YES, i think its 25k is too much.

the BRZ might be worth 25K bc it does come with HIDs and a nicer interior
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hopefully theyll update more info in the next few days
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I agree, the FR-S is stripped down. You don't really get much. Its not worth 25K. $22-23K yeah with the bespoke included. Look at all the other scions, they are not as stripped down as the FR-S.

At least start it low and let us add options...but Scion is stuck on its monospec and pure pricing. That is what is really killing the brand. Hopefully the FR-S will keep Scion alive.
What do you mean "Scion Frs is the most stripped down?" All Scion models come with the same thing.

-Ipod Usb/Aux

-Pioneer Headunit

-Bluetooth (2012 Models Standard)

-Cloth Seats

Only thing the FRS doesn't have is steering wheel controls.

Their cars are monospec, because they want to keep the price low, and allow for several dealer installed accessories/parts.
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from what we know the frs will come equipped with YES, i think its 25k is too much.

the BRZ might be worth 25K bc it does come with HIDs and a nicer interior
I don't think subaru has a nicer interior. The silver trim looks terrible.
And the outside "fake vent" is tacky.
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I don't think subaru has a nicer interior. The silver trim looks terrible.
And the outside "fake vent" is tacky.
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The subaru looks nice and tidy down the middle with the Digital climate control and push button start but the silver doesn't suit the car IMO.

The Black / Carbon-esque trim on the scion looks more suiting (to me).
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Really? 25K is a stretch when you consider the car with the rest of the Scion product line but I don't understand this its not enough car for 25k considering the Integra Type R was priced very closely and that was years ago so if you included inflation into everything the FRS isn't too bad
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