2020 Toyota GR Supra Revealed! - Page 137 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Dadhawk · 01-10-2020, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Getting rid of the fake vents is a mistake to me. The car looks too much like a bar of soap. We just need the vents to be functional

Yep, the same reason I never liked the MK4 Supra. I have never understood the love for it appearance wise anyway.

Irace86.2.0 · 01-10-2020, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Yep, the same reason I never liked the MK4 Supra. I have never understood the love for it appearance wise anyway.

I owned two, and I never cared for the front, headlights or wheels much, but the hips n ass were nice.

Captain Snooze · 01-11-2020, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I guess different strokes as they say.

There are two main types of stroke: ischemic, due to lack of blood flow and hemorrhagic, due to bleeding.

beltax90 · 01-11-2020, 06:40 PM

Dont forget the butterfly stroke

jflogerzi · 01-14-2020, 03:00 PM

So is the USA getting the new 2.0L Supra. Curious how much the sport pack option will cost. Guessing the new twin should slot below this new 2.0 four banger model

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Kaotic Lazagna · 01-14-2020, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

I owned two, and I never cared for the front, headlights or wheels much, but the hips n ass were nice.

Since MKIV are rare, I'm assuming you know a Josh F. up in your town who owns a black one with the TRD wing and I think a Rod Millen front lip???

Irace86.2.0 · 01-14-2020, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Since MKIV are rare, I'm assuming you know a Josh F. up in your town who owns a black one with the TRD wing and I think a Rod Millen front lip???

The Supras I owned was between 2002-2009. I haven’t seen any Supras in town regularly. I’ve seen a white one and a red one that were both stock, and maybe I’ve seen a black one as you described once. I see more wide bodied 86’s than Supras. In general, I don’t know or hang with anyone in the car community. I haven’t since my twenties.

BA9092 · 01-14-2020, 04:58 PM

I just don't understand why though.

The Supra is supposed to be a 6, not a 4. For the true "fan boys" who slam it for being too BMW, it's even more blasphemous to put in a 4-cyl. That's like putting a 6 in a Vette. Fine, just call it a Celica then. Lol.

Why not move that money and research towards the next gen 86/BRZ instead, or into an future (mid-engine) MR2?

On the other hand, people may just want the looks and handling of a more prestigious Supra vs an 86 but can't afford the B58 upgrade, much like the V6 Camaros/Challengers and Ecoboost Mustangs, I guess.

There are so many comparisons already between the Supra and the twins, I can't imagine what the reasoning is behind creating TWO 2.0L different versions of a rwd Toyota sports car.

Irace86.2.0 · 01-14-2020, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BA9092

I just don't understand why though.

The Supra is supposed to be a 6, not a 4. For the true "fan boys" who slam it for being too BMW, it's even more blasphemous to put in a 4-cyl. That's like putting a 6 in a Vette. Fine, just call it a Celica then. Lol.

Why not move that money and research towards the next gen 86/BRZ instead, or into an future (mid-engine) MR2?

On the other hand, people may just want the looks and handling of a more prestigious Supra vs an 86 but can't afford the B58 upgrade, much like the V6 Camaros/Challengers and Ecoboost Mustangs, I guess.

There are so many comparisons already between the Supra and the twins, I can't imagine what the reasoning is behind creating TWO 2.0L different versions of a rwd Toyota sports car.

Kinda funny because the Vette had a six.

BA9092 · 01-14-2020, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Kinda funny because the Vette had a six.

True. I stand corrected. For the first two years. However, it's been a V8 for the last 62 years though. Still...

Captain Snooze · 01-14-2020, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BA9092

The Supra is supposed to be a 6, not a 4. For the true "fan boys" who slam it for being too BMW, it's even more blasphemous to put in a 4-cyl.

Maybe the target market isn't the "true fan boys". In a similar vein to BMW making a fwd car. I'm suggesting most buyers won't care.

strat61caster · 01-14-2020, 10:04 PM

BMW already did all the engineering to stick that engine in for the lower trim Z4/international Zupra, it weighs less over the front end improving the cars balance while still being capable of >300whp with a tune and exhaust which is plenty of fun for most people in a <3200 lb car.

BMW people I know say the 4 banger is more fun to hoon.

ZDan · 01-14-2020, 10:27 PM

I'm more interested in the 4cylinder Supra than the 6. Less weight, better F/R distribution, less $$$, bring it...

BA9092 · 01-14-2020, 10:42 PM

I'm just trying to learn and play devil's advocate.

BRZ/86 sales are at an all-time low. How will having a 4-cyl Supra going to help that or the cause for a next gen twin?

I know the B58 makes the supra "heavy" but isn't it already at a 50/50 weight distribution?

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01-11-2020, 06:40 PM	#1908
beltax90 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Drives: 2010 corolla Location: california Posts: 1,404 Thanks: 1,520 Thanked 1,798 Times in 780 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dont forget the butterfly stroke

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BA9092 Captain Slow Join Date: Jun 2018 Drives: '18 BRZ Limited PP 6MT ISM Location: DFW area Posts: 333 Thanks: 388 Thanked 223 Times in 104 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just don't understand why though. The Supra is supposed to be a 6, not a 4. For the true "fan boys" who slam it for being too BMW, it's even more blasphemous to put in a 4-cyl. That's like putting a 6 in a Vette. Fine, just call it a Celica then. Lol. Why not move that money and research towards the next gen 86/BRZ instead, or into an future (mid-engine) MR2? On the other hand, people may just want the looks and handling of a more prestigious Supra vs an 86 but can't afford the B58 upgrade, much like the V6 Camaros/Challengers and Ecoboost Mustangs, I guess. There are so many comparisons already between the Supra and the twins, I can't imagine what the reasoning is behind creating TWO 2.0L different versions of a rwd Toyota sports car.

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ZDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: '23 BRZ Location: Providence, RI Posts: 4,584 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,891 Times in 2,032 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm more interested in the 4cylinder Supra than the 6. Less weight, better F/R distribution, less $$$, bring it...

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BA9092 Captain Slow Join Date: Jun 2018 Drives: '18 BRZ Limited PP 6MT ISM Location: DFW area Posts: 333 Thanks: 388 Thanked 223 Times in 104 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm just trying to learn and play devil's advocate. BRZ/86 sales are at an all-time low. How will having a 4-cyl Supra going to help that or the cause for a next gen twin? I know the B58 makes the supra "heavy" but isn't it already at a 50/50 weight distribution?

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