Problems with the FRS-BRZ platform

[yamrossi]

Originally Posted by ryoma

any car will start having problems after you start heavily modifying it, not just the 86. do people expect to slap on an extra 100HP on a car that was not designed to take it and have OEM reliability? it seems pretty ridiculous to me.

if you are going to buy this car and immediately FI it out the bat, then this car might not be the right car for you. sounds like you want a WRX or STI, or even the focus RS. you will end up paying around the same as those cars (or even more) after you FI and get the supporting mods.

I won't go FI right out of the box. I will drive it first and then make the call.
The other cars WRX STI included are all excellent cars.
But once you sit in the cockpit of the BRZ, you immediately realize it was designed to be a sports coupe.
As compared to the others which are sporty versions of normal or economy cars. No disrespect, the others cars are amazing in their own right.
Sticking with the BRZ for now.

[yamrossi]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Please do not read as angry. Legit questions not a call out:


How do you know that you even want FI yet? Have you put many miles on behind the steering wheel? Have you based this decision on the paper racers or "more power" crowd's comments?


I also thought that I would be going FI from the start until I started actually driving the car. Is it a speed demon? Hell no, but it is also not the "slow" snail that many make it out to be. There are many much smaller mods you can do that will give a modest bump in HP and based on your plans they may be more appropriate.
Now, if you want to kick some 'Stang butt at stop lights or just want HP bragging rights (both perfectly legit reasons for an individual to want) then FI is your answer.

You bring up a good point. I have consciously attempted to not be influenced by the "more power" crowd.
Guess I was a little bit.
From my brief experiences driving this car, it's excellent out of the factory.
You don't get the "shit this is fast" experience when you mash the pedal though. Which is fine. This is not a torque monster.
And no, am not like Dominic Toretto's "live life quarter mile at a time" person.
So yes, I see your point. I will drive it for some time before deciding FI.

[yamrossi]

Originally Posted by 15limited

Driver mod would be your cheapest, most reliable upgrade. The only thing that puts a bigger smile on my face than a blown or boosted 86 passing V8 is a capable driver with aNA platform.
As you know these things have only been out for a few years and you can see companies coming out with updated versions form their original designs. ie; V.2 FI kits/ headers.

I agree completely.
I took this driving course recently. It's called Audi Sports car experience at the Sonoma Raceway. It's a little expensive, but totally worth it.
It was a fantastic learning experience. You guys should try it if you are in the area.
I don't have a sports car YET to start autocross. Will get there. Until then, will keep doing such courses.

[jawn]

Yeah, first gen supercharger + guy who didn't like his car to begin with = bad day.

[[YOYO]]

Originally Posted by jawn

Yeah, first gen supercharger + guy who didn't like his car to begin with = bad day.

That guy has been on the negative band wagon since day one. What's a room full of SAVAGEGEESE called? A whine cellar!

[Summerwolf]

Holy eff, I just realized he has more videos pertaining to other cars. Does he get paid to review vehicles?!?!


Nissan Maxima intro. "300 HP and it is cold out....what could go wrong?!?"


Probably nothing.... you're in a new maxima.... even with 300 HP its a CVT equipped Nissan Maxima....

[softgrip]

Having "upgraded" from a lightly modified Wrx to the BRZ this month, I can honestly say I'm not missing the power.

I can take corners much faster in the BRZ even on stock tyres. It drives like a dream!

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by yamrossi

I am posting this to hear thoughts from the community. I am looking to buy a BRZ. After reading a decent amount of posts, I was pretty sure, the discovered issues were sorted out or could be sorted. This video link is making me rethink my decision. Any commentary is appreciated.

In my brief search, I did not find a post with this video link, so here goes. If there is an existing topic, please dup this.

I put this in Issues, but please move it to the appropriate sub-forum.

Video guy is running a vortech SC, no wonder he's having tons of issues

[mav1178]

Of interest: that car is now equipped w/ a Blitz turbo kit.

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by yamrossi

I am posting this to hear thoughts from the community. I am looking to buy a BRZ. After reading a decent amount of posts, I was pretty sure, the discovered issues were sorted out or could be sorted. This video link is making me rethink my decision. Any commentary is appreciated.

In my brief search, I did not find a post with this video link, so here goes. If there is an existing topic, please dup this.

I put this in Issues, but please move it to the appropriate sub-forum.

If you go back and read most of my posts you will see over 2 years most of the issues. Most of them are chicken shit problems, some caused by us, some caused by half ass design and support from aftermarket companies and others just relating to modifying a budget platform.

Originally Posted by trboboostr6

Are you buying a fi car?
Then prepare to inherit a headache.
Are you a whiz with cars and fixing them?
Then get out your wallet.
Guy in the video is a Whiny *****.
Thought he was gonna buy the first frs off the lot and
Slap on the first supercharger kit he could find and everything was gonna have factory fit and it was gonna run smooth as silk with a email tune
And have factory warranty and reliability.
Dude has his head up his butt.

If the car is stock you should be fine. Even simple things past stock are fine.
If you don't know how to maintain and repair and deal with the headaches that come with slapping a turbo/supercharger on a car that didn't have one to begin with, then your digging your own grave

You can take a look at the join date of 2012 and all the effort we put into helping this community. From DI, logging, working with tuners, oil temp research on and on.

It's sharing an experience, nothing more. You want perfect experiences go to guys like TJ Hunt who get free stuff and everything done for him so he can advertise how great things are. This forum like most are run by vendors trying to sell sell sell. And the real world is not everything goes smooth. Take it for what its worth but we put more time and hours in here than plenty of the internet racers.

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

That guy's videos always made me laugh. He found every reason not to like the car IMO. Everything he says is a negative, and it all seems to be his fault. Maybe its just me.


I did learn something about belt routing on the vortech though when I was first looking in to FI.

It's sharing a real world experience. It's snarky and sarcastic.
Spending hundreds of hours on a car will do that to you.

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by jawn

Yeah, first gen supercharger + guy who didn't like his car to begin with = bad day.

I always liked the car, never liked how it had nerf power output.

Originally Posted by [YOYO]

That guy has been on the negative band wagon since day one. What's a room full of SAVAGEGEESE called? A whine cellar!

Can I buy your jokes? My lawyers will be in contact.

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Holy eff, I just realized he has more videos pertaining to other cars. Does he get paid to review vehicles?!?!


Nissan Maxima intro. "300 HP and it is cold out....what could go wrong?!?"


Probably nothing.... you're in a new maxima.... even with 300 HP its a CVT equipped Nissan Maxima....

It's called sarcasm. 4DSC with a CVT, marketing crap.
We don't get paid to do anything, we test cars and submit bug reports on infotainment, programming and other issues.

Originally Posted by mav1178

Of interest: that car is now equipped w/ a Blitz turbo kit.

How is that beast running now?

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

How is that beast running now?

Ironically it's still sitting, not running. hahahah

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Ironically it's still sitting, not running. hahahah

Shocker, at least the legacy continues!
Hopefully nothing major though.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

Shocker, at least the legacy continues!
Hopefully nothing major though.

Nothing major haha... just installed the kit then other work stuff took over.

I should ask my friend for a finder's fee...