2017 Toyota 86 - new name, styling, and more power

[MisterSheep]

Originally Posted by stevesnj

True, could be different cams, intake, exhaust design, ECU map. I'd like to know how they got to 205. The gear changes to me should make the feel of the car much snappier. Looking forward to driving one. Will give me an idea of what direction to go to keep my 86 all NA with just specific mods.

I am also looking forward to when these cars come out. I will be asking the local Toyota dealership to test drive one of them to actually feel the changes that were implimented

[DrifterD]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

LOL!
I have always said that with cars like this they should just make a "Mod Model". Comes with no taillights, headlights, wheels, cat back or intake but does provide a list of all the aftermarket manufacturers of those parts.
Could have the nicest rims or lights in the world but since they are stock they will suck to some and need to be changed out to make them stand out in the crowd. And isn't that why many buy these types of cars?

[Braces]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Wonder if it stayed the same weight as the front and rear bumpers grew, fancier front and rear lights, 'special material instrument panel' and steering wheel buttons. Power gains could just be a revised heads/exhaust and tune.

I'm impressed, not a total turnoff. No reason to turn mine in but nothing wrong with version 1.1.

I'm sure that the huge increase in horsepower (5) will more than make up for the predictable increase in weight.

[mazeroni]

Originally Posted by stevesnj

What car does everybody want?

Carbon fiber monocoque with matte carbon exterior panels, diamond quilted leather interior, 16-way power seats with massage and hot and cold function, Tesla-style touch screen, AWD with 3 differentials that can divert 100% of power to 1 wheel, twin-charged super and turbo charger affixed to the new flat-8 engine with 720hp connected to a 10-speed triple clutch gearbox that is also a manual, and gets 112 mpge despite not being a hybrid. It has to weigh 2,500 pounds and cost under $20,000 or I will never seriously consider it!

The car is fine. It is a low-volume, low-cost sports coupe in a market of high volume muscle cars that can afford to offer more for less. Of course it is vital to manage expectations. The reality being in 6 months after people have seen the car in person wearing other colors 90% of people will say they actually prefer it.

I will say I am not a fan of the taillights (current one included), wish they kept the garish fender badging, but am not all that offended by the front-end. It is goofy, but the current car isn't exactly the essence of perfection. I prefer not having buttons on my steering wheel but the shape doesn't really bother me. If it still drives well and offers better compliance over bumps and what-not, I am happy.

If these changes result in better sales, good! The more it sells the more likely they will continue building the thing and replacing it every few years!

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by The359

So turns out this was the Toyota, and not the Subaru.

Notice it even has the new 86 side badge masked over.

This also shows you where the fog lights will go on the new 86.

It's interesting how the press release version doesn't have the wing that the tester model has.

TRD turbo 86 confirmed?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by MisterSheep

exactly, for those who don't like the facelift it will still more than likely be interchangeable with the previous gen bumpers.

But will it? We do not know if they reshaped the joins at hood and fenders for the new bumper. Probably not but we don't KNOW. As little as a 1/4 inch change or a slightly different angle can mean no go for the old bumper.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

It's interesting how the Press release version doesn't have the wing that the tester model has.

TRD turbo 86 confirmed?

No hood bulge to meet pedestrian safety crash test requirements in the US. Aftermarket would not need it. OEM would.
The day you see a bulge in that hood is the day the more power stock guys can start creaming.

[scottgas]

Really! 5 whole hp? Why did they even bother. I get so tired of Toyota's overly conservative crap. Been a Toyota fan most of my 45 years, owned a MK1 MR2 for 25 of them. If they aren't going to take customers complaints about lack of power serious then don;t bother at all. The 3sge BEAMS was making 200hp almost 20 years ago and this is all they can deliver, with much higher compression, direct injection, and almost 20 years more experience in engine management? BS!!!

[Dezoris]

The big deal here is the gearing, which if you have been in a new ND you will know how much that helps making it feel quicker than it is.

Also the new bumper is going to help those who need more cooling/air for aftermarket heat exchangers.

[fang_gt86]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Wonder if it stayed the same weight as the front and rear bumpers grew, fancier front and rear lights, 'special material instrument panel' and steering wheel buttons. Power gains could just be a revised heads/exhaust and tune.

I'm impressed, not a total turnoff. No reason to turn mine in but nothing wrong with version 1.1.

I don't remember any newer cars that gets lighter that it's older version.

[MisterSheep]

Originally Posted by fang_gt86

I don't remember any newer cars that gets lighter that it's older version.

Can't tell if serious........

[theparagon]

Originally Posted by The359

So turns out this was the Toyota, and not the Subaru.

Notice it even has the new 86 side badge masked over.

This also shows you where the fog lights will go on the new 86.

Did you notice the same weird T/space invader in the grill?

[The359]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

It's interesting how the press release version doesn't have the wing that the tester model has.

TRD turbo 86 confirmed?

It also doesn't have the fog lamps on that test car either, and the press release version is an automatic, so I'm going to guess it's a base model.

The wing will be part of the options package most likely.

[kthxbai]

Excited to see "86" as the new name!

I am a proud 1st Gen owner and it continues today with this press release. The restyled front end, back end, and headlights are going to be an acquired taste. My expectations for a toyota branded car must be too high, because this rendering is just not up to par.

Headlights - Remind me of aftermarket Sypder Auto
Front Bumper - 2nd what @Tcoat said (completely nailed it)
Back End - Lines does not seem natural...perhaps they tried too hard to make it different

Im interested to see the updated intake and the rest of the updated interior/engine bay in person! At the end of the day, I'm still a fan of the car and the continued lineage.