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Old 03-17-2016, 10:18 AM   #113
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Expecting some weight gain too with the gizmos and gadgets that were added.
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Old 03-17-2016, 10:20 AM   #114
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All in all, sales numbers will determine it's popularity. I think they will sell more than 1st gen.
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Old 03-17-2016, 10:21 AM   #115
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Not going to repeat much of what is said here, but I like the redesign (although I am wondering why @1GiantTurtle hasnt spoken up yet, he's probably going to buy 50 of these now).

I would have loved to get this car with steering wheel audio controls. Its easy enough to change the regular way, but having to look sometimes can be relatively unsafe.

That said, in a couple years I may have to justify buying an 86 to my wife again

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I think there were just a lot of issues from the TC SC and wonder if that's why they didn't bother. Seeing as these cars can handle power relatively well though, it would be a nice option and way for them to make a couple extra bucks. Even a 30-50hp bump would be appreciated by many, and be rather safe.
Speaking from experience (I actually had one, with issues), I can guarantee you that the issues that they had weren't from the part itself, in fact once mine was properly installed it was a beautiful thing with a 75 whp bump that I enjoyed driving daily.

Note that I said "properly installed." Mine, at the very least, was installed incorrectly which led to numerous serpentine belts being shredded (cause was that they slightly bent one of the mounting brackets at original install that threw an idler pulley out of alignment). I would wager that the majority of problems were caused by crappy installs. Sorry, Toyota, but asking techs who are more used to doing oil changes and basic routine maintenance to install FI with minimal training perhaps wasn't the best choice. Oh, and charging $4,000 for the setup.
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Old 03-17-2016, 10:23 AM   #116
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god damn... I just want to see interior shots.. I like the 86 badge on the side fender and that's probably about it. The headlights and taillights look like they just bought spyder Head/tail lights and slapped them on there

all and all would rate 6/10 (on looks) but haven't seen interior shots
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Old 03-17-2016, 10:26 AM   #117
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Yawn!! 5hp with a minor face n butt lift. Since its now a Toyota, I wonder if it's they're gonna release the RC or keep it mono spec.
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Old 03-17-2016, 10:28 AM   #118
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Probably be a good idea. Although I am sure from many of the responses people did not read the release nor many of the already existing pots. Can't wait to see how many times some of the same things are repeated.
Eh, read it. Nothing more other than I wouldn't have posted about the embossed 86 in the headlamps.

Gathered most of what I need from looking at the photos.

Overall, a 2.5% power bump isn't enough to make a current owner come back and look at trading in regardless of one personal opinion on the exterior. Considering that we haven't seen pricing yet I wouldn't be surprised if a price increase is more than 2.5% bump.
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Old 03-17-2016, 10:28 AM   #119
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I'm torn between being thankful that the front bumper is the only thing I'd need to change, and being tempted to go throw up in the bushes after seeing it.
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I love how on a forum where we constantly explain to people why we didn't buy the car with the most horsepower we have to explain to people why we didn't buy the SC with the most horsepower.
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Love, love, love the headlights. Need those for my FR-S.
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Likes
New Rims
Toyota badges as well as calling it an 86 finally!
5p increase

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Steering wheel (looks like your inside a toyota corolla)
86 badge on the side
Removal of the 86 badge on fender
Taillights
Still no spoiler as standard

Regarding the face-lift itself, I never liked the open mouth grills...however this is not a bad design, i just prefer the original way more. I think the 2013-2016 will be a gem
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Old 03-17-2016, 10:33 AM   #122
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I like some of the changes, like the wheels and revised interior. Not feeling the front of the car at all and the power bump is a joke (especially since there is most likely a weight increase). I think Toyota continues to miss the mark by limiting the power. And no, I don't think the car needs 300hp, but this car is screaming for turbo that at least makes numbers close to a GTI (210hp/258ft lbs tq). Also give the car Pilot Super Sports as the OEM tire...
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New Rims
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5p increase

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Steering wheel (looks like your inside a toyota corolla)
86 badge on the side
Removal of the 86 badge on fender
Taillights
Still no spoiler as standard

Regarding the face-lift itself, I never liked the open mouth grills...however this is not a bad design, i just prefer the original way more. I think the 2013-2016 will be a gem
where did you see interior shots?
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Old 03-17-2016, 10:37 AM   #124
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I like some of the changes, like the wheels and revised interior. Not feeling the front of the car at all and the power bump is a joke (especially since there is most likely a weight increase). I think Toyota continues to miss the mark by limiting the power. And no, I don't think the car needs 300hp, but this car is screaming for turbo that at least makes numbers close to a GTI (210hp/258ft lbs tq). Also give the car Pilot Super Sports as the OEM tire...
If they were to give pilot super sports stock then it would loose it's tail happiness. They chose the tires they did for a reason. It's up to the driver if they want to add stickier tires or not.
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where did you see interior shots?
It's in the thread on page 5? Anyway someone just posted above me the picture again
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