2017 BRZ vs MX5 RF

[Rolla]

Comparison review

http://www.caradvice.com.au/518491/m...rz-comparison/

[softgrip]

I don't know why I still read these, since I drive a 2017, and previously drove a 2016.

Still can't get enough BRZ media.

[8RZ]

Mazda has had a lot more time to polish and perfect their Miata too, love both cars though.

[dowroa]

It will be interesting to see the BRZ Premium Club v MX5 RF Club. The MX5 Club has come with 17x7s in the past for front brakes only, and this year it costs 3400 as an option. The remote keyless entry is also another 300 option on the Club version.

Maybe that is outside of the RF's wheelhouse. Interesting, none the less.

Thank you for sharing the article.

[fatoni]

this seems like a pretty cherry picked comparison

[jmark]

Originally Posted by Rolla

Comparison review

http://www.caradvice.com.au/518491/m...rz-comparison/

Article is pretty much spot on.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by fatoni

this seems like a pretty cherry picked comparison

How so? The RF looks great, but many people who have sat in the car seem to say the same stuff.

Compared to the softtop the RF weighs more, has worse visibility, costs more, has less cargo space, and no real extra rigitidy. Mazda really should have made a legitimate fixed top coupe, not a Miata Del Sol.

[DarkSunrise]

Nice review. That's the first time I've seen reviewers prefer the power in the BRZ. Either the RF's weight gain makes a big difference or the updates to the FA20 have paid off.

[HKz]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Nice review. That's the first time I've seen reviewers prefer the power in the BRZ. Either the RF's weight gain makes a big difference or the updates to the FA20 have paid off.

because you can make a case for both when you look at torque and HP..

Miata - 155-148/2381 - 15.36 pounds per HP, 16.09 pounds per lb ft of torque
86 - 205-158/2809 - 13.70 pounds per HP, 17.78 pounds per lb ft of torque

..explains why most reviewers, who probably aren't banging the test cars off the limiter, prefer the Miata's acceleration but at the top of the revv range the 86 still feels a bit faster and is able to keep up on most tracks despite the tires having less grip.

The Miata/86 comparison will never be fair, the two cars aren't really after the same mission and even as a 86 lover I can agree as a 2nd/weekend car, the Miata probably is a slightly better pick (500 pounds is a big difference) whereas the 86 is much more suitable overall as a DD/main car despite having the firmer ride.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by HKz

because you can make a case for both when you look at torque and HP..

Miata - 155-148/2381 - 15.36 pounds per HP, 16.09 pounds per lb ft of torque
86 - 205-158/2809 - 13.70 pounds per HP, 17.78 pounds per lb ft of torque

..explains why most reviewers, who probably aren't banging the test cars off the limiter, prefer the Miata's acceleration but at the top of the revv range the 86 still feels a bit faster and is able to keep up on most tracks despite the tires having less grip.

The Miata/86 comparison will never be fair, the two cars aren't really after the same mission and even as a 86 lover I can agree as a 2nd/weekend car, the Miata probably is a slightly better pick (500 pounds is a big difference) whereas the 86 is much more suitable overall as a DD/main car despite having the firmer ride.

Yep I think that's a fair assessment.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by HKz

The Miata/86 comparison will never be fair, the two cars aren't really after the same mission and even as a 86 lover I can agree as a 2nd/weekend car, the Miata probably is a slightly better pick (500 pounds is a big difference) whereas the 86 is much more suitable overall as a DD/main car despite having the firmer ride.

Agreed. It really comes down to what you want/need from a car. The 86 doesn't really have a competitor, so the Miata/Fiata is the next closest thing.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Mazda really should have made a legitimate fixed top coupe, not a Miata Del Sol.

I was going to say "Really? After 28 years people are still asking this?"

Then I remembered how I saw a 'mid-engined Corvette' article a few days back so fuck it, guess I have to live with people spouting this garbage for the rest of my life too.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

I was going to say "Really? After 28 years people are still asking this?"

Then I remembered how I saw a 'mid-engined Corvette' article a few days back so fuck it, guess I have to live with people spouting this garbage for the rest of my life too.

What's your point, that Mazda will never make a Miata coupe?

[Calvin27]

The price gap is still the biggest issue.

$5k buys you headers, tune, coils and tyres. At that point the miata is toast.

The miata advantage is it has a larger following and lots more older guys with deeper pockets.