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Not taking away from the MCA part at all, as I suspect it is far less expensive than the SPL, and absolutely more "plug and play" for the average person. |
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I don't know exactly how much it reduces anti-squat . Yes there a little effective softening of the rear from it. I moved from Front 6Kg/mm Rear 5kg/mm to F7 R6, raised the rear a little, then tested over a day and adjusted dampers a tiny bit softer in front and a little firmer in rear and am now very happy with how the balance and behaviour is. Like anything though. You set the car up for how you want it with the adjustments you have. Many have bolted it in and run it as is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by 86•BRZ; 11-14-2016 at 03:04 AM. |
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I'm still running my 7/6Kgmm springs like most of the guys are on our tracks. They still seem to be in the sweet spot. Some people added a click more dampening. Personally I left mine about where it was but I did try a click up and down. On the plug and play aspect I had an allignment about 2-3 weeks prior (about 10 trackdays and 8000kms) and after I came back for my reallignment to Street spec my car to drive home the camber was still within 0.1 Degree and Toe within 0.3mm of my original settings on the same calibrated setup. Mind you I may of done some exploring of the Trackside scenery too so they do a pretty good job of not changing allignments. Give it a go. It's a cheap part that you might enjoy.
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Your spring rates are pretty front biased already though, so you might not get nearly as much lift oversteer to begin with. All that said, if you're not lifting after getting pretty hard onto the gas, you'll never experience that, and if you're driving properly you shouldn't need to be doing that.
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I hear what you're saying but it just doesn't work like that, and I can confidently say that because about 15 of us have actually tried it on track and and a few with different setups and spring rates. The rear may be a touch softer but it's hardly standing on its head under brakes. I love adjusting entry angle by lifting throttle and on a particular local corner at over 130 kph it can be easily overdone. That's without braking and even through mid corner trail braking with the traction mod the rear was more reluctant to step out, I even tried a lot more aggressively. As said in the end I made a few other adjustments that favoured oversteer to compensate. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by 86•BRZ; 11-13-2017 at 03:27 PM. |
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International patent pending? Good luck. That's going to be STUPID expensive, and relocating pickup points is hardly novel and one could make a strong argument it's sufficiently obvious to someone "skilled in the art."
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Yes there is a little more "push" out of corners and the car is less taily at all points. Just trying to give my impression of this mod and I've been completely honest in my thoughts. To compensate I added a little more oversteer with basic adjustments for my liking but many have left it as is with the mod. The extra traction obviously still remains. I mentioned corner entry and trail braking above. I'll try to get some other Aussies here for their thoughts on it as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by 86•BRZ; 11-14-2016 at 05:40 PM. |
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Adding into the comments above I've had the mod on my car for some months, I'm one of the people in the MCA interview video for the product - I've run it across several different tracks as well as for drift, and as most of the Aussie guys who have commented above will attest I'm fairly "aggressive" in my driving style. I'm late on brakes and (possibly too) early on throttle. I run MCA Blues with 6KG front and rear, and my experience is that through corner speeds are higher, with much less oversteer/traction events on exit. I've modified my driving style slightly as I had been relying on some of the natural tail out which meant that I was slightly understeering on exit - I've actually stiffened the rear (rather than softening the front) and this makes it ideal for me. My advice, if you have a favourite track with some bumpy corner exits is to try this mod, it makes a huge difference to getting power down out of corners - my car is NA and for the FI guys this is providing even greater benefits.
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As an additional comment I haven't found snap oversteer to be any more of an issue after fitting the traction mod, and for drift the car is just as controllable as before.
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