Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash

We have 40 Procedes in stock right now. I'll have online order links up tomorrow. Between MX5 and GT86 ESC kits, I suspect that they will all be sold. Price for this first batch will be $399. Next batch may be a few dollars more due to the price of some components creeping up over the last year.



To answer other questions, the Procede will work (and install) on v1 kits the same way it does on v2 kits. The only difference is that on v1 installs, you need to tap one more wire instead of unplugging the audio jack on the throttle switch and plugging it into the Procede harness.



Rob and I have talked about how the Procede fits into the grand scheme of things. If you have an original v1 kits, there may not be a compelling reason to upgrade to v2 controller and v2 compressor as the Procede offers similar improvements to max ramp-up times. This is because it starts moving the compressor earlier in the throttle travel and offers a light-duty pre-spool mode to keep the compressor moving between shifts.



The new v2 batteries, however, can be considered a very worthwhile upgrade for existing rev1 users.

Wow that's a helluva turn around time. Gotta work on that video...

[Silent_Dan]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

It's a separate purchase through shiv.

Will the procede controller work for the guys that already have ecutec or is it only for otf tunes?

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by Silent_Dan

Will the procede controller work for the guys that already have ecutec or is it only for of tunes?

Should work fine with someone else's tune. Since the procede controller is reading the crankshaft sensor and the the DBW throttle blade position sensor.

[Shiv@Openflash]

Originally Posted by Silent_Dan

Will the procede controller work for the guys that already have ecutec or is it only for otf tunes?

The Procede should work with any form of Ecu tune. It doesn't effect the tune itself. Just how the ESC is activated.

[Shiv@Openflash]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

Should work fine with someone else's tune. Since the procede controller is reading the crankshaft sensor and the the throttle position sensor.

Correction: it reads the crankshaft and DBW throttle blade position signal

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash

Correction: it reads the crankshaft and DBW throttle blade positional signal

Damn. I almost sounded like I knew what I was talking about. Fixed.

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

Wow that's a helluva turn around time. Gotta work on that video...

better get shakin' man

[jflogerzi]

Very cool. Would love to see a dyno plot with the new controller

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

Very cool. Would love to see a dyno plot with the new controller

Would look exactly the same.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

Ok literally just got home.

First off thank you to @DAEMANO and @WRB5titch for the awesome lunch. It was great seeing you guys.

Also sorry @Shutter if it wasn't for the horrendous LA traffic I would of stopped by the shop today.

I just want to chime in on a few things that daemano touched on.

After driving 48 hours with the procede controller I do not think I could go back to the partial throttle switch. (And the partial throttle switch is really good too.)

Why do you ask?

Yesterday I took a mountain pass near Watsonville, ca (route 152 I believe) from the bottom of the hill to the crest I drove and activated the esc many times in the middle of curves. The traction control system never activated a single time.

I do not think this would of been possible with the old switch.

Feel:

It feels like the esc isn't there. I know this sounds bad but it isn't. The car feels like a larger engine. And this in my opinion is amazing.

Also like daemano stated I spend most of my time in the low and mid range of the rpm band. And the procede controller really fills this niche really well.

Also I think this system will really kick ass in an autox.

Batteries:

Not a single damn issue the whole way down. The grape vine was my *itch and the batteries held up like champs.

Here's what's interesting. Whenever I activated boost the system would stop after a few seconds since I achieved the speed I needed. I didn't realize how often the system wouldn't be under boost.

Install:

I plan on making a video (I know how much guys love hearing my voice) and also the written instructions for the install.

Shiv and I believe the install will take about 20-30 mins. The hardest part being removing the connections for the ecu to tap.

All in all there are three wires to tap and 1 connection to the male throttle switch connection.

Bad news:

The only issue this has is very small one. When you first start the car you must NOT touch the the accelerator pedal as this is during the initialization of the esc controller and it can make things go a wee bit hay wire.

What this means is that you have to wait 10 seconds before moving the car.

I'll be happy to answer any questions anyone may have. Also daemano and wrb5titch both got a decent feel of the system as well, so they can chime in too.

When you say it needs to sit there for 10 seconds is that only the first install or every time you start the car?

My car is extremely loud and I basically start it and immediately release the clutch to get on my way and quite it down.

Cold start is SOOOO loud!

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by fenton

When you say it needs to sit there for 10 seconds is that only the first install or every time you start the car?

My car is extremely loud and I basically start it and immediately release the clutch to get on my way and quite it down.

Cold start is SOOOO loud!

Seems like its every time which does kind of suck

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by fenton

When you say it needs to sit there for 10 seconds is that only the first install or every time you start the car?

My car is extremely loud and I basically start it and immediately release the clutch to get on my way and quite it down.

Cold start is SOOOO loud!

Yeah. Literally wait 10 seconds every time. Maybe Rob can figure out a way to shorten the time.

[Shiv@Openflash]

Originally Posted by fenton

When you say it needs to sit there for 10 seconds is that only the first install or every time you start the car?

My car is extremely loud and I basically start it and immediately release the clutch to get on my way and quite it down.

Cold start is SOOOO loud!

Just a little correction, you can drive upon starting the car immediately. Just refrain from going more than 50% throttle for the first 10 seconds as this is the time the Phantom ESC controller needs to initialize.

The same applies to the standard kit (without Procede). Except that you need to refrain from activating the WOT or Partial switch for the first 10 seconds.

We will probably release updated firmware for the Procede which automatically accounts for this (so you don't have to).

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash

Just a little correction, you can drive upon starting the car immediately. Just refrain from going more than 50% throttle for the first 10 seconds as this is the time the Phantom ESC controller needs to initialize.



The same applies to the standard kit (without Procede). Except that you need to refrain from activating the WOT or Partial switch for the first 10 seconds.



We will probably release updated firmware for the Procede which automatically accounts for this (so you don't have to).

I thought we had to make sure we didn't touch it all otherwise 0 for the controller registered as a voltage which could change activation points.