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Old 09-19-2019, 01:51 PM   #60831
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Following up on @Dadhawk

they are the late 70s into 80s econoboxes

but also highly upgradable. Like the Dart/Duster/ X chassis Nova they are starting to creep up on price cause they are somewhat desirable in the right fit.

Sung Kang made one for the reason of being ford backed with his students. But it really sorta gave the mav a boost in hype it needed.



So the follow up question is... what has you looking at Mavericks?
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Old 09-19-2019, 02:33 PM   #60832
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Now that's HIGHLY debatable and not comparable. The Maverick was bigger/heavier car being based on the 1960 Ford Falcon chassis. Plus, it came with an in-line 6! The Pinto was Ford's answer to the Vega and we've already relived it's "explosive" career.
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Hard pass.
Looks like we got two that like it and one that doesn't. Care to elaborate?
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I never drove one (legally anyway) but my favorite Uncle had one that he let me drive on our dirt road. He drove it for about 200,000 miles as I recall until someone ran into him and (really) totaled it.

In the end its the 70's equivalent of a basic econo-car. Nothing awful but nothing special either. (ADDED: Of course it is very upgradeable so it could make a project sleeper car)

It looked exactly like this one found randomly on the Internet

Yeah, it wouldn't be a stock one. It would be restomodded.
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Following up on @Dadhawk

they are the late 70s into 80s econoboxes

but also highly upgradable. Like the Dart/Duster/ X chassis Nova they are starting to creep up on price cause they are somewhat desirable in the right fit.

Sung Kang made one for the reason of being ford backed with his students. But it really sorta gave the mav a boost in hype it needed.



So the follow up question is... what has you looking at Mavericks?
Just going through my motions again. Still thinking about what car I actually want to pick up and can't decide between being patient and waiting for the right one (which might never happen) or settling on something much more affordable and obtainable. (Restored Mavericks are close to my price range right now, actually)
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Old 09-19-2019, 03:09 PM   #60834
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Looks like we got two that like it and one that doesn't. Care to elaborate?
It's not a 240Z.
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Old 09-19-2019, 03:14 PM   #60835
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Yeah, it wouldn't be a stock one. It would be restomodded.
It would definitely be a good candidate for that assuming you are upgrading the drive train and suspension to match, or the one you are buying already done has that. I'd personally want an early model (I think pre '74) before they added the huge 5MPH bumpers to it.

When searching for a green one that matched my Uncle's I found this restomod. I'd want something like this, maybe without the side stripes. @Tcoat might even approve the color.

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It would definitely be a good candidate for that assuming you are upgrading the drive train and suspension to match, or the one you are buying already done has that. I'd personally want an early model (I think pre '74) before they added the huge 5MPH bumpers to it.

When searching for a green one that matched my Uncle's I found this restomod. I'd want something like this, maybe without the side stripes. @Tcoat might even approve the color.

Haha I know exactly where you found that one too. I've seen it a few times now. I love how it's basically a baby Boss.

(And yeah, death to all bumpers. Shaved ftw!)
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I never drove one (legally anyway) but my favorite Uncle had one that he let me drive on our dirt road. He drove it for about 200,000 miles as I recall until someone ran into him and (really) totaled it.

In the end its the 70's equivalent of a basic econo-car. Nothing awful but nothing special either. (ADDED: Of course it is very upgradeable so it could make a project sleeper car)

It looked exactly like this one found randomly on the Internet
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Following up on @Dadhawk

they are the late 70s into 80s econoboxes

but also highly upgradable. Like the Dart/Duster/ X chassis Nova they are starting to creep up on price cause they are somewhat desirable in the right fit.

Sung Kang made one for the reason of being ford backed with his students. But it really sorta gave the mav a boost in hype it needed.



So the follow up question is... what has you looking at Mavericks?
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Looks like we got two that like it and one that doesn't. Care to elaborate?

Yeah, it wouldn't be a stock one. It would be restomodded.

Just going through my motions again. Still thinking about what car I actually want to pick up and can't decide between being patient and waiting for the right one (which might never happen) or settling on something much more affordable and obtainable. (Restored Mavericks are close to my price range right now, actually)
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It would definitely be a good candidate for that assuming you are upgrading the drive train and suspension to match, or the one you are buying already done has that. I'd personally want an early model (I think pre '74) before they added the huge 5MPH bumpers to it.

When searching for a green one that matched my Uncle's I found this restomod. I'd want something like this, maybe without the side stripes. @Tcoat might even approve the color.
Like the Mustang before it the Maverick was intended to fight the Japanese cheap, light throw away cars of the 70s. It did that job better than history gives it credit for. They made literally millions of the things and they were actually a huge success even if almost forgotten now. There was also the Mercury Comet that although made in smaller numbers were also a success. It was a bit larger but still "small" by the standards then which really hit it off with the American public.


The biggest problem with them wasn't engine or power train but that they were one of the last cars where the body was made almost exclusively of steel recycled from WW2 ships (some which had been underwater for decades), tanks and planes. This means they already had a high level of oxides in the steel and rotted out FAST! Didn't really matter back then since they were always intended to be a three year and throw away car anyway. The Grabber was available with a sprint pack and was easily a contestant in the Pony car wars of the 70s but they made up such a tiny percentage of the Mavericks made that they are now very rare and largely forgotten. The vast majority were six cylinder two door sedans with very little in the way of features. It was one of these very base models that I took my first born home from the hospital in so I have a sentimental attachment to them. I have even had it pop back up on my wish list every now and then when feeling nostalgic.


Contrary to my usual objections to restomodding one of these would be GREAT candidate that I would consider doing myself if I could find one with a good body. Just please don't do it to a rare Grabber trim! If doing a low power mod then it would be reasonably easy using the existing structure. Anything much over about 200HP will require beefing up the whole "frame". I watched a 400HP one twist like a pretzel at the strip once.


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Haha I know exactly where you found that one too. I've seen it a few times now. I love how it's basically a baby Boss.

(And yeah, death to all bumpers. Shaved ftw!)
Ones like that with the pre crash test bumper actually look better with it in place.
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That looks better.....lol


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about the Pinto/Vega comments: thats correct

but wasnt the Dart also compared against the maverick and the dart was effectively a "midsize compact"

vs being an import compact beater


ive often thought about the maverick, but like I mentioned getting into one size wise is a question. i know the Mopar A body well and fit in them rather well... Im trying to find a 75 and later Nova in Cali to fit myself into.... for some reason that body style in particular has always stuck with me


that or an 80s/90s 190e cause cosworth but thats another bucket of worms,


I have a saab 97x I own with a 5.3 LM7 and 6l40e and i figure ill drive it to about 200k and when i swap out for a bigger utility vehicle ill take the drive train out and refresh it and put it into something...

dunno maverick or nova or hell id go sacriliage with a dart/duster.

Id really like to find a hang ten duster or something, but id feel bad about chopping it up

same with taking a grabber model mav and turning it into something else.



Now in the far left field is something more ambitious but equaly bizzare and time consuming... swapping a 1950's chevy or mopar truck body onto the saab's frame and keep the V8 and awd system...
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about the Pinto/Vega comments: thats correct

but wasnt the Dart also compared against the maverick and the dart was effectively a "midsize compact"

vs being an import compact beater


ive often thought about the maverick, but like I mentioned getting into one size wise is a question. i know the Mopar A body well and fit in them rather well... Im trying to find a 75 and later Nova in Cali to fit myself into.... for some reason that body style in particular has always stuck with me


that or an 80s/90s 190e cause cosworth but thats another bucket of worms,


I have a saab 97x I own with a 5.3 LM7 and 6l40e and i figure ill drive it to about 200k and when i swap out for a bigger utility vehicle ill take the drive train out and refresh it and put it into something...

dunno maverick or nova or hell id go sacriliage with a dart/duster.

Id really like to find a hang ten duster or something, but id feel bad about chopping it up

same with taking a grabber model mav and turning it into something else.



Now in the far left field is something more ambitious but equaly bizzare and time consuming... swapping a 1950's chevy or mopar truck body onto the saab's frame and keep the V8 and awd system...
The Dart was a bit longer but about the same width as a Maverick. It was still considered a "compact" of that era though. Considering that a full sized car now can be smaller then the compacts back then it really is all in perspective.
I have been on a on and off quest for a 440 Dart for years now. I would NOT be changing anything on it though. There are loads of surviving base and 270 model Darts out there that would be a great restomod project though.
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Now in the far left field is something more ambitious but equaly bizzare and time consuming... swapping a 1950's chevy or mopar truck body onto the saab's frame and keep the V8 and awd system...
I like you more and more. Not only do you give really good, concise answers, but you like crazy build ideas too. My friends have entered eye rolling territory for my crazy ideas so I try to keep them to a minimum anymore haha
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