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Old 03-12-2016, 11:33 PM   #351
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None of these renders/pics are official until it has that new wing on the rear trunk!

Toyota never released Official PR pics of the car without a wing back in 2011
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Old 03-12-2016, 11:49 PM   #352
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I'm saying that rebranding a major market and seeing this spyshot could have a correlation to this redesign reflecting that of Toyotas form factor. To each his own I think I'm just rationalizing why they would take a decent looking car and make it look like....that.
LOLLOL Ok I will accept the rationalizing part! I just get frustrated by all the Oh it is a Toyta now so they will change things" statements. It was a Toyota before and looked the same as all the rest so the change would have been the same even if still Scion.
I can not wrap my head around how people (not directed at you there Jao but so many here) do not seem to get that Scion never designed or built a single car ever. It was just a marketing tool in the US (and Canada for a few short years). All Scion models except the tC were sold around the world badged as Toyotas so the simple change of badge here does not mean they are changing anything else on the car. Hell the iA was never a Scion and has always been a Yaris in Canada. Maybe it is the simple fact that North Americans seem to think the world starts and ends with us that has created this thought process.
My point is that the face lift has nothing to do with making it look more like a Toyota since it already did and the rebadge means nothing in the big picture as there are already tens of thousands of these cars that were always badged as such.
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Old 03-13-2016, 12:38 AM   #353
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They should have photoshopped the wheels. Arguably the ugliest part of the entire car.
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Old 03-13-2016, 01:09 AM   #354
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They should have photoshopped the wheels. Arguably the ugliest part of the entire car.
I can't possibly be the only person in the world that actually likes the stock rims can I?
Yes I said RIMS since I am talking about the hard part in the center.
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I can't possibly be the only person in the world that actually likes the stock rims can I?
Yes I said RIMS since I am talking about the hard part in the center.
I don't HATE the wheels, but I just feel like Toyota dropped the ball considering how iconic stock wheels can be on sports cars. I feel like there is nothing special about them whatsoever.

I would pay extra for a set of 16" oem 86 wheels.
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I can't possibly be the only person in the world that actually likes the stock rims can I?
Yes I said RIMS since I am talking about the hard part in the center.
I like them. It might be a Canadian thing.
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I remember reading that article a few weeks ago at a Japanese bookstore but seeing it now makes me skeptical about a few things. First, they themselves mention that the nur spec aero was just released in Japan, and yet they claim this model update will be released this year, only a few months after the release of incompatible aero. I guess it's possible but i think that's a pretty dumb move. Next, the article claims only the manual tranny will get a 5ps 0.7kg/m horsepower and torque upgrade. I am so skeptical of any kind of power increase claims, although 5ps is a negligible difference anyway. They claim it will make an appearance at the Geneva show but they already got that wrong for sure.
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I can't possibly be the only person in the world that actually likes the stock rims can I?
Yes I said RIMS since I am talking about the hard part in the center.

Its a lava thing. Also like the stock wheels.
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I can't possibly be the only person in the world that actually likes the stock rims can I?
Yes I said RIMS since I am talking about the hard part in the center.
I like them well enough to keep them since I'm a cheapskate, but I would have preferred an all black color. It looks better with Hot Lava in my opinion.

That said, from a marketing perspective, I believe that the rims were chosen cause they are passable with all the colors. Cheaper and easier to provide one type and color of rim to all. You can bet the marketing boys ran tests to make sure the general public could live with them
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I can't possibly be the only person in the world that actually likes the stock rims can I?
Yes I said RIMS since I am talking about the hard part in the center.
I like the stock wheels!

I also love the stock Primacys. If only they weren't so expensive compared to other choices out there..
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I like them. It might be a Canadian thing.

I like 'm too, eh.
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Old 03-13-2016, 10:07 AM   #362
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Nah, it's not just a Canadian thing. I have to admit I like the stockers on my Steel. I have seen a lot of other nice wheels, obviously, and I've thought about "upgrading", but nowhere near the top of my priority list right now. Different tires when the Primacys wear out, yeah, but will probably keep the stock wheels for a while.
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Nah, it's not just a Canadian thing. I have to admit I like the stockers on my Steel. I have seen a lot of other nice wheels, obviously, and I've thought about "upgrading", but nowhere near the top of my priority list right now. Different tires when the Primacys wear out, yeah, but will probably keep the stock wheels for a while.
I fell in love with the steel color when I saw one in person. If I do get back into an 86 it will be that color.
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I'll translate the article. Same old car, 5hp increase. No sti. Merry Christmas.

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