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Old 01-09-2014, 06:33 PM   #20133
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He's been warned and he's gonna do what he's gonna do. I say we start a pool to guess when he has catastrophic failure.
I say we pool together and buy him an analysis kit and then a 0w20 oil to compare it against. If he is willing to put the heavier oil in and is confident then have him do some tests for us to see if it realistically is safe longer term! I did the same shit on my car... lol. We now know that running stoich @ 5-12PSI is not safe. But apparently it will run a REALLY LONG TIME.
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Old 01-09-2014, 06:38 PM   #20134
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I say we pool together and buy him an analysis kit and then a 0w20 oil to compare it against. If he is willing to put the heavier oil in and is confident then have him do some tests for us to see if it realistically is safe longer term! I did the same shit on my car... lol. We now know that running stoich @ 5-12PSI is not safe. But apparently it will run a REALLY LONG TIME.
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Old 01-09-2014, 06:42 PM   #20135
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I have a fairly large oil sample dataset from a single car that would suggest running heavier than 0w-20 is a bad idea. If you want to protect your engine better than the OEM oil, buy a higher quality oil (I recommend Motul 300v) but don't go with a heavier weight!
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Old 01-09-2014, 06:44 PM   #20136
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I pay almost that for one quart of the Motorex full synth I run in our bikes...

I'm gonna research this one a little bit.


KTM says only run Motorex. Interesting an Austrian manu recommends a Swiss manu. They do make high quality stuff (oil, their spray grease is the most amazing thing ever) but it is not worth the price.


I run Rotella in all my bikes (they call for 15-40 syrup) even the KTM . The oil debate shall continue forever.


I will not run Rotella in "EEEK". Bye Bye warranty...
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Wow thanks guys lets see how quickly I blow up is always a nice thing from fellow 86 owners... like pizzman i was running rotella. i will analyze if you all want but im done with the debate.
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I have a fairly large oil sample dataset from a single car that would suggest running heavier than 0w-20 is a bad idea. If you want to protect your engine better than the OEM oil, buy a higher quality oil (I recommend Motul 300v) but don't go with a heavier weight!


Holy Sheet! That stuff is expensive!!


108$ on Amazon for enough for a 5.2q oil change! I want a free analysis every change for that price!!


I will send an analysis in on my cheap as fudge Mag1 after 5k. TBD
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Wow thanks guys lets see how quickly I blow up is always a nice thing from fellow 86 owners... like pizzaman i was running rotella. i will analyze if you all want but im done with the debate.

Pizzaman. I see what you did there. LOL. Relax bro
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Old 01-09-2014, 06:59 PM   #20140
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And now to change the topic, look at my terrible horrible ghetto temporary subwoofer mounting.





I'm experimenting with how large a system I want to add, so it's all just temporary and I didn't want to mount temporary to the actual car. I'm actually pretty happy with stock and this added enough extra oomph to last awhile. 10", 300w peak, 100w rms, $100 powered subwoofer from Walmart. If you guys are lucky I'll let you sign the board at a meet.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:01 PM   #20141
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Mark Mitsubishi in Glendale just got in a 2014 Black Evo GSR with the sight and sound package. I did see that they do have some price incentives on it currently.

If you go and check it out, tell them Andrew sent you in.
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Wow thanks guys lets see how quickly I blow up is always a nice thing from fellow 86 owners... like pizzman i was running rotella. i will analyze if you all want but im done with the debate.
Don't get upset over it. You seemed pretty sure you were doing the right thing with the thicker oil I didn't think you could be swayed. It is a fact that your motor will fail prematurely from running oil too thick for your clearances. If I can find it I'll donate a kit for uoa so you can have scientific fact about what it causes running thick oil. I have an old jeep with 160k miles that I wouldn't run higher than 10-30 in and that's decently high mileage.
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Holy Sheet! That stuff is expensive!!


108$ on Amazon for enough for a 5.2q oil change! I want a free analysis every change for that price!!


I will send an analysis in on my cheap as fudge Mag1 after 5k. TBD
That sounds about right. It can be had a bit cheaper if a retailer is willing to cut into their own profit margins, but even wholesale pricing is pretty expensive.

On the flip side, the analysis I've had so far suggest that 10,000+ miles is very doable on this oil, and I don't drive gently.

P.S. Don't believe what people say about 300V being a racing oil that can't be run on the street. The data I have shows the additive package is identical to Motul's highest-grade street oil, *but* with the addition of lots and lots of friction-reducing molybdenum (this cannot be added to their street-grade oil as the current API spec does not allow it for environmental reasons).
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@Ninjin if i wasn't going to be likely upping my clearances on my engine and going for a heavier weight i would say we should go in on a barrel of that shit with how fast we go through fluids... HAHA
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That sounds about right. It can be had a bit cheaper if a retailer is willing to cut into their own profit margins, but even wholesale pricing is pretty expensive.

On the flip side, the analysis I've had so far suggest that 10,000+ miles is very doable on this oil, and I don't drive gently.
if your analysis was showing that long with how you drive... damn. I am going to be pretty anal on analysis after the rebuild, I am quite curious. I would love to go 6+k miles between changes on the new build if possible. /lazylife
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@Ninjin if i wasn't going to be likely upping my clearances on my engine and going for a heavier weight i would say we should go in on a barrel of that shit with how fast we go through fluids... HAHA
Missed opportunity. Although I'm not sure if I want to know what a barrel of that stuff costs.

Besides, this is going to be your oil when the build is done:



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