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Old 07-21-2013, 02:27 AM   #365
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this car stock has such a loose tail. daily I would slide that rear end it got annoying after a while lol
Yeah, I noticed that in tight, technical 2nd-3rd gear off-camber turns WOT but still <4K rpm even with the sticky RE-11A's and all traction aids on.

FYI, my UltraGauge triggers a momentary alarm over 4K rpm that isn't stored as a trouble code in the OBD II system. I figure Toyota might be logging it elsewhere in the ECU until the 1K mile break-in in case of a failure caused by owners failing to observe the published run in limits. We'll see if the alarm continues after 1K miles.

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Old 07-21-2013, 09:09 AM   #366
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this car stock has such a loose tail. daily I would slide that rear end it got annoying after a while lol
Do you have the nannies turned off?
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:46 AM   #367
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After days of teasing pictures from my dealer but not being able to see it two days in a row (Day 1 it was stuck in the closed service center waiting for the spoiler to be mounted, and Day 2 it was locked up at the detailing center to keep interested parties from getting too close to it), I finally picked up #1082 from the dealer. Absolutely gorgeous! Stock (Canadian..ugh don't even get me started) head unit looks mega out of place though.

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I did notice one thing - the 10 series fake carbon dash inset is just double-sided-taped onto the original T pattern fake carbon fibre (which I prefer). Except that on the passenger side they had to drill a hole through the black one to get the wiring through to the lighter 10 series dash pattern. I tried to pry it off of the piece around the head unit and pried the whole inset off instead. Oops.

Ugh in my excitement to drive off with the car I also drove off without some of my personal stuff (including my cell phone charger cable to transfer files) at the dealership so more pictures to come.

Dealer finance guy was hilarious (as in, he was hilarious because he was stupid); he asked me if I wanted the extended warranty, in which I asked the (somewhat rhetorical) question - "why? do you think your cars aren't built that well?". You could see him squirming to tell me that "Toyota cars are the best in the world" but "You should get the extended warranty". He then Googled JD Power & Associates and tried to show me how well Toyota does in these rankings. Sure enough, #1 was Lexus, #2 was (surprisingly) Lincoln (??), and #3 was Toyota. Then there was a bunch of manufacturers lower down, the "industry average", and then a bunch of cars after that. Near the bottom, was SCION. I burst out laughing and pointed it out to the guy and told him he probably shouldn't show that to customers as some sort of selling tool. So after all of this, I got the agreement and was about to sign when I noticed he had tacked on the $2400 extended warranty - the one I SPECIFICALLY declined. If I hadn't read through the fine print carefully I would have walked out of there minus $2400 for something I didn't want! Then when he reprinted the agreement I saw he made some math errors so had to reprint AGAIN. I found it ironic that he had his trainee with him who probably thought that she could easily replace this guy haha. Word of warning - watch out what they tack onto your price!

My sales guy thought I was the first in BC to have this car. That may be some dealer bullshit but even if it is, it feels pretty special to be out there with the only 10 series FR-S (that I've seen so far)! I went to pick up my girlfriend from somewhere and I got a few stares from people in the parking lot. I was worried that the 10 series may be perceived as a "poser car", what with its light up badges and stupid SC10N light display on the passenger dash (ok so it does feel a bit cheese) but you DO feel special with that Silver Ignition paint and those lights! Make the car look so much better than the stock projectors. I just wish we knew how to leave the LED DRLs on! Anybody figure that out yet?

I drove the "base" FR-S last October on a whirl wind trip to California via the Pacific Coastal Hwy last year and it was an absolute blast but had a few concerns which somehow seems to have been corrected??

A. The sound: bugged me at high revs but around town (which will be most of my driving) it sounds growly. I like it now (or its just me mentally getting accustomed to it).

B. Pedal positions were a bit weird: I felt like the accelerator pedal was too far back originally and the clutch bite point was a bit too wide for smoothness (compared to my miata anyway). Driving with the same shoes I did last october and this has somehow gone away? I'm not sure how this happened but I can heel toe now. Clutch transition point seems ok now too (?).

C. Engine felt too slow revving: This seems OK now too? When I blip the throttle now it makes this sharp growl, like a dog barking. Its definitely not a smooth revving inline four, but its got its own character.

Anyway, I was worried that this car wouldn't be 35gs (after Canadian taxes and other bullshit) better than my existing Miata and a few days ago I was feeling a bit of buyers remorse with the drama we've all felt getting this car.

But to all those who are second guessing their purchase - DON'T. This car is worth waiting for! Stay true!

Hmm I did notice that the HIDs seem to make a lot of noise and yesterday after I got home I smelt some burning? Anybody else find this?

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Old 07-21-2013, 11:51 AM   #368
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Picked mine (#774) up on Friday afternoon. Hell of a storm the same day - maiden voyage including dodging downed trees and power lines!



My dealer said we were likely the first his and hers FR-Ss in North America, but I'm not sure. Super happy with our car family!


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After days of teasing pictures from my dealer but not being able to see it two days in a row (Day 1 it was stuck in the closed service center waiting for the spoiler to be mounted, and Day 2 it was locked up at the detailing center to keep interested parties from getting too close to it), I finally picked up #1082 from the dealer. Absolutely gorgeous! Stock head unit looks mega out of place though.

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I did notice one thing - the 10 series fake carbon dash inset is just double-sided-taped onto the original T pattern fake carbon fibre (which I prefer). Except that on the passenger side they had to drill a hole through the black one to get the wiring through to the lighter 10 series dash pattern. I tried to pry it off of the piece around the head unit and pried the whole inset off instead. Oops.

Ugh in my excitement to drive off with the car I also drove off without some of my personal stuff (including my cell phone cable to transfer files) at the dealership so more pictures to come.

Dealer thought I was the first in BC to have this car. That may be some dealer bullshit but even if it is, it feels pretty special to be out there with the on 10 series FR-S (so far)! I went to pick up my girlfriend from somewhere and I got a few stares from people in the parking lot.

I drove the "base" FR-S last October on a whirl wind trip to California via the Pacific Coastal Hwy and it was an absolute blast but had a few concerns which somehow seems to have been corrected??

A. The sound: bugged me at high revs but around town (which will be most of my driving) it sounds growly. I like it now (or its just me mentally getting accustomed to it).

B. Pedal positions were a bit weird: I felt like the accelerator pedal was too far back originally and the clutch bite point was a bit too wide for smoothness (compared to my miata anyway). Driving with the same shoes I did last october and this has somehow gone away? I'm not sure how this happened but I can heel toe now. Clutch transition point seems ok now too (?).

C. Engine felt too slow revving: This seems OK now too? When I blip the throttle now it makes this sharp growl, like a dog barking. Its definitely not a smooth revving inline four, but its got its on character.

Anyway, I was worried that this car wouldn't be 35gs better than my existing Miata and a few days ago I was feeling a bit of buyers remorse with the drama we've all felt getting this car.

But to all those who are second guessing their purchase - DON'T. This car is worth waiting for! Stay true!

Hmm I did notice that the HIDs seem to make a lot of noise and yesterday after I got home I smelt some burning? Anybody else find this?
Post a pic of your HU, I want to see what canada got, the 2014 HU looks great in the car.

As for the smoothness... this car isn't an inline 4... it's a boxer engine... lol
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:08 PM   #370
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The Scion OEM Spoiler is really growing on me when seen in Silver Ignition. I like the subtle lines where the spoiler changes shape following the lines of the inner portion of the taillights.

I'm still in quite the toss up between trying to decide between remaining stock, 5 axis prepainted, getting a local shop to paint a BRZ Limited, and now this Scion OEM which I can probably get prepainted. Making choice very hard for me. Decisions decisions...
Pablitomarrero - congrats on your number! The Manatee license plate is hilarious dude.

FiRStsc10n - I got the Scion stock spoiler and I'm loving the look of it. I was originally hoping to get the GT86 one (and before the 10 series was looking at the 5-axis) but ultimately didn't feel it was worth the hassle over getting what the dealer could offer. Also - with the whole Canadian head unit debauchery I asked for a deal on the spoiler and the dealer gave me 15% off (basically equivalent to tax here in BC) for a total of ~$500 CAD adder (after taxes). Look wise, I really like it! I feel like its kind of a cross between the GT86 spoiler and the 5-Axis one. And also, for the hassle of having to order a spoiler online and get it paint matched it just didn't justify the price and time premium (for me anyway).
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Post a pic of your HU, I want to see what canada got, the 2014 HU looks great in the car.

As for the smoothness... this car isn't an inline 4... it's a boxer engine... lol
Thanks Luis_GT - I know its not an inline 4, I was just pointing out that the boxer doesn't rev as smoothly as an inline, thats all.
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Picked mine (#774) up on Friday afternoon. Hell of a storm the same day - maiden voyage including dodging downed trees and power lines!



My dealer said we were likely the first his and hers FR-Ss in North America, but I'm not sure. Super happy with our car family!

Sick license plate dude!
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A. The sound: bugged me at high revs but around town (which will be most of my driving) it sounds growly. I like it now (or its just me mentally getting accustomed to it).

B. Pedal positions were a bit weird: I felt like the accelerator pedal was too far back originally and the clutch bite point was a bit too wide for smoothness (compared to my miata anyway). Driving with the same shoes I did last october and this has somehow gone away? I'm not sure how this happened but I can heel toe now. Clutch transition point seems ok now too (?).

C. Engine felt too slow revving: This seems OK now too? When I blip the throttle now it makes this sharp growl, like a dog barking. Its definitely not a smooth revving inline four, but its got its own character.

Anyway, I was worried that this car wouldn't be 35gs (after Canadian taxes and other bullshit) better than my existing Miata and a few days ago I was feeling a bit of buyers remorse with the drama we've all felt getting this car.

But to all those who are second guessing their purchase - DON'T. This car is worth waiting for! Stay true!

Hmm I did notice that the HIDs seem to make a lot of noise and yesterday after I got home I smelt some burning? Anybody else find this?
A. I like it too. Nothing like the tractor motor sound of a typical Subie. Gets even better with an open exhaust like my Perrin resonated catback.

B. Agreed. Tried different shoes, find thicker soles help heel/toe since the throttle pedal is slightly lower than I'd like.

C. Smooth enough for me! Definitely smoother than most Toyota 4-bangers without balance shafts but not quite up there with Honda/Acura. I did an ECU reset (remove negative battery terminal for 20 minutes) to correct a fuel gauge indicator problem and it also improved throttle response running TRD CAI.

Yes, typical HID whine is louder in our cars but can't hear it once I start the car.

Burning smell in usually never good, but could be new car exhaust smell that goes away after a tank or two of quality premium fuel.
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A. I like it too. Nothing like the tractor motor sound of a typical Subie. Gets even better with an open exhaust like my Perrin resonated catback.

B. Agreed. Tried different shoes, find thicker soles help heel/toe since the throttle pedal is slightly lower than I'd like.

C. Smooth enough for me! Definitely smoother than most Toyota 4-bangers without balance shafts but not quite up there with Honda/Acura. I did an ECU reset (remove negative battery terminal for 20 minutes) to correct a fuel gauge indicator problem and it also improved throttle response running TRD CAI.

Yes, typical HID whine is louder in our cars but can't hear it once I start the car.

Burning smell in usually never good, but could be new car exhaust smell that goes away after a tank or two of quality premium fuel.
I'll keep on it for now, but i'll take it back in if the smell persists after a few tanks.

Thanks torqdork - comments much appreciated.
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Sick license plate dude!
Thanks! I whited out most of it for privacy purposes but I was pretty happy to get that plate.
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Here's what I'm currently tracking on my UltraGauge primary page (6 other pages track 80 other parameters) with hi/lo alarms for a few points like Timing, an advance indicator of possible detonation caused by rare DI issues. MPH for oversize tire calibration.

Macro shot makes display look pixelated, is easier to read than appears.

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I'll keep on it for now, but i'll take it back in if the smell persists after a few tanks.

Thanks torqdork - comments much appreciated.
Mine smells of burning gear oil... its normal
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Mine smells of burning gear oil... its normal
Mine smells like its melting lol...headers get effing hot

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