Clutched Supercharger Build, yes they do exist

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Originally Posted by Acree

So the thread topic says build and I'm failing to see a single tangible product or build going on. Come back when you have an actual product...

I'm sorry the supercharger just got here this week. How about if you don't like the speed I'm doing this in you just find another thread?


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Originally Posted by ft_sjo

I think you're trying to fix a problem that does not exist. With the sprintex/innovate twin screw, fuel economy during static cruise tests is not really affected by a noticeable amount - the car will still return 40mpg @ 70mph on the flat (UK).

I'm not trying to fix a fuel economy problem I'm making something that gives two options and provides a unique setup and experience that you can hide.


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[Mechazawa]

Interesting idea I think it's an Eaton sc and the clutch was made by the same outfit that made them for Toyota in the 80s. It was never intended to be switched manually of course. They had systems to lock the clutch under load. Even a small improvement in fuel economy is important to a manufacturer trying to hit corporate average fuel economy standard.

Do you use a terminal emulator to configure the clutch? (Noticed the cisco rollover cable in the photo)

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[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Mechazawa

Interesting idea I think it's an Eaton sc and the clutch was made by the same outfit that made them for Toyota in the 80s. It was never intended to be switched manually of course. They had systems to lock the clutch under load. Even a small improvement in fuel economy is important to a manufacturer trying to hit corporate average fuel economy standard.

Do you use a terminal emulator to configure the clutch? (Noticed the cisco rollover cable in the photo)

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Pretty sure that'd be denso if it is the same company that made it for sc12 and SC14..
As for the actuating system, it's mainly sudden throttle position change. The old roots blowers would melt the coatings easily if always engaged. This along with economy was the main reason for the clutched setup due to the inefficient of the roots blower and the stupid placement of a tiny intercooler with limited air flow.

Not the case with the current offerings of sc kits though. Just because you can doesn't mean it's a good idea such as jumping off the train platform.

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I'm at the AZ86 bash now but to put it simply this setup has been proven on the custom kits made for years using this SC on Mazda V6's.
If you don't like the idea that's fine but regardless it's been proven and we'll liked on a bigger motor. So at this point your ties to the 1st gen MR2 from 1986 compared to the 2003 and above Mercedes that this comes from is a little misinformed.

Thank you though.

On the other question. Because I'm at the bash it's hard to address it but I will tonight when we get back home.


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[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Cross

I'm at the AZ86 bash now but to put it simply this setup has been proven on the custom kits made for years using this SC on Mazda V6's.
If you don't like the idea that's fine but regardless it's been proven and we'll liked on a bigger motor. So at this point your ties to the 1st gen MR2 from 1986 compared to the 2003 and above Mercedes that this comes from is a little misinformed.

Thank you though.

On the other question. Because I'm at the bash it's hard to address it but I will tonight when we get back home.


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I was addressing his points, but yeah, misinformed, how so?

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The issues with clutch failure on these units from actual use in such applications. But hey let's argue over the internet in a thread you obviously are not interested in for anything other than disapproving


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[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Cross

The issues with clutch failure on these units from actual use in such applications. But hey let's argue over the internet in a thread you obviously are not interested in for anything other than disapproving

I did not say anything about clutch failure. Let's not render this into some petty internet keyboard warrior's playground.

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Originally Posted by s2d4

I did not say anything about clutch failure. Let's not render this into some petty internet keyboard warrior's playground.

That would be great considering this thread has a purpose that you have not been interested in and keep poking with information not based off actual testing of this unit vs the 1st gen MR2.

Thanks for agreeing to let the thread get back on track.


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[s2d4]

Again, I was addressing his points with more info he wasn't sure of, so how was I misinformed?

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Originally Posted by s2d4

Again, I was addressing his points with more info he wasn't sure of, so how was I misinformed?

So much for stoping right?
I'm at the bash and I have again asked you to stop you are not interested that's fine and that's where it should end.

The same company could very well be involved in making the clutch however as pointed out 1986 vs 2003 and the concept just because you can jump doesn't mean you should vs proven heavy use has been addressed.

Thanks


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[DJCarbine]

Is there a difference in crank pulley diameter between the FRS and the car the supercharger came off of?

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Cross

So much for stoping right?
I'm at the bash and I have again asked you to stop you are not interested that's fine and that's where it should end.

The same company could very well be involved in making the clutch however as pointed out 1986 vs 2003 and the concept just because you can jump doesn't mean you should vs proven heavy use has been addressed.

Thanks

Well, I am on the forum to learn. Don't think we are on the same page. Participating in a discussion with valid info doesn't seem to sit well with you but that is your issue to deal with.

Anyway, again, how was I misinformed?
What are the differences in the setup between the 1986 toyota SC vs 2003 MB SC other than the charger?
What were their reasons for going with the clutched type SC?
What are their reasons for not utilising the clutched setup anymore?
What are your reasons other than it's different? How is it feasible?
What do you mean by easily removed?
What do you mean by proven heavy use? I wasn't and never talked about the reliability of the clutched pulley setup. What are you actually proving?

[nonicname returns]

I was really hoping innovate's sc would sound like this but it barely makes a sound. So disappointing!