KW V3's pros & cons - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Shaolin · 11-12-2013, 07:45 PM

So I will be picking up a set of KW V3 tomorrow and thought I would see what the feedback is in regards to pros and cons so let me hear what you think as this is my first experience with these!

CSG David · 11-12-2013, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin

So I will be picking up a set of KW V3 tomorrow and thought I would see what the feedback is in regards to pros and cons so let me hear what you think as this is my first experience with these!

What are you looking to do? If you plan to just daily the car, they would be good street coilovers over a majority of suspension kits out there. If you dial in the suspension incorrectly (like any suspension kit), then they can possibly be worse than stock.

Edit: Not trying to alienate your decision. Just finding out what you want to do with the suspension to better answer your question. If you need help dialing in the suspension and finding out the optimal alignment setup, don't hesitate to contact me or @CSG Mike.

mav1178 · 11-12-2013, 07:52 PM

Why are you getting V3? Do you know how to dial in suspension settings? Do you know what compression adjustments do for you vs. rebound?

This is a serious question, because I have a feeling you don't know how to use the V3 to their full advantage.

-alex

ModBargains.com · 11-12-2013, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG David

What are you looking to do? If you plan to just daily the car, they would be good street coilovers over a majority of suspension kits out there. If you dial in the suspension incorrectly (like any suspension kit), then they can possibly be worse than stock.

+1.

You're totally right. KW's are great for comfort, but there are better systems out there for performance if you do the right research.

CSG Mike · 11-12-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178

Why are you getting V3? Do you know how to dial in suspension settings? Do you know what compression adjustments do for you vs. rebound?

This is a serious question, because I have a feeling you don't know how to use the V3 to their full advantage.

-alex

Fortunately, we offer suspension tuning services, so he doesn't have to worry about that

mav1178 · 11-12-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Fortunately, we offer suspension tuning services, so he doesn't have to worry about that

I know, but I think a lot of people are buying these high-end suspension kits thinking it's some miracle setup that will tune itself.

"Pros vs cons" of a KW V3 setup should already be decided before one buys it, not a "what's the good and bad of this setup I'm picking up tomorrow" comment...

-alex

toby714 · 11-12-2013, 09:10 PM

cons: no camber plates, expensive for a twin-tube

CSG David · 11-12-2013, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by toby714

cons: no camber plates, expensive for a twin-tube

Ohlins TTX is a twin tube. Would you consider that as expensive for a twin tube?

Shaolin · 11-12-2013, 10:28 PM

Well I have done my research and no I don't believe there a miracle setup that will tune itself. Yes this will be a DD and for weekend canyon fun and then end up on the track occasionally but that won't be for awhile. I didn't just jump and say I need to buy these because their high end which I am getting at a great price which is comparable to some lower quality setups. I didn't realize asking a simple question would be met with such harsh criticism? I am competent enough to know my limits knowledge wise and I will definitely get help dialing it in for my needs. My question was more for opinions to see what people were experiencing good or bad and not to help me make a decision!

utekineir · 11-12-2013, 10:34 PM

joining the retard boat too,

was pretty set on feal 411, but figured these were worth 300 more, ordered yesterday

CSG Mike · 11-12-2013, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin

Well I have done my research and no I don't believe there a miracle setup that will tune itself. Yes this will be a DD and for weekend canyon fun and then end up on the track occasionally but that won't be for awhile. I didn't just jump and say I need to buy these because their high end which I am getting at a great price which is comparable to some lower quality setups. I didn't realize asking a simple question would be met with such harsh criticism? I am competent enough to know my limits knowledge wise and I will definitely get help dialing it in for my needs. My question was more for opinions to see what people were experiencing good or bad and not to help me make a decision!

I think you'll be just fine. If anything you may end up adjusting the balance by changing sways, and getting the actual settings dialed in by us, but once it's set, you'll be happy with the setup.

toby714 · 11-12-2013, 11:09 PM

if you spend a little more you could get ast coilvers with custom spring rates.

Racecomp Engineering · 11-12-2013, 11:19 PM

If you're considering KW V3, I'd recommend our RCE Tarmac 2 clubsport coilovers. We worked with KW closely to build our own option with spring rates of 400 lbs/in front and rear (with custom options available). You're basically get the more aggressive KW Clubsport coilover with a few our tweaks, but around the price of the KW V3s. And you get the lifetime warranty. Something to think about.

- Andy

whataboutbob · 11-12-2013, 11:41 PM

^^ Interested in this.

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mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,093 Times in 3,029 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Why are you getting V3? Do you know how to dial in suspension settings? Do you know what compression adjustments do for you vs. rebound? This is a serious question, because I have a feeling you don't know how to use the V3 to their full advantage. -alex

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toby714 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: whiteout Location: garden grove Posts: 376 Thanks: 47 Thanked 40 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	cons: no camber plates, expensive for a twin-tube

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Shaolin おはけ Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 13 Whiteout Location: SoCal Posts: 123 Thanks: 19 Thanked 22 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Well I have done my research and no I don't believe there a miracle setup that will tune itself. Yes this will be a DD and for weekend canyon fun and then end up on the track occasionally but that won't be for awhile. I didn't just jump and say I need to buy these because their high end which I am getting at a great price which is comparable to some lower quality setups. I didn't realize asking a simple question would be met with such harsh criticism? I am competent enough to know my limits knowledge wise and I will definitely get help dialing it in for my needs. My question was more for opinions to see what people were experiencing good or bad and not to help me make a decision!

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utekineir blowhard Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: frs, project forester Location: ma Posts: 980 Thanks: 53 Thanked 604 Times in 316 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	joining the retard boat too, was pretty set on feal 411, but figured these were worth 300 more, ordered yesterday

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toby714 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: whiteout Location: garden grove Posts: 376 Thanks: 47 Thanked 40 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	if you spend a little more you could get ast coilvers with custom spring rates.

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Racecomp Engineering Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2016 BRZ, 2012 Paris Di2 & 2018 STI Location: Severn, MD Posts: 5,403 Thanks: 3,416 Thanked 7,241 Times in 2,962 Posts Mentioned: 303 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	If you're considering KW V3, I'd recommend our RCE Tarmac 2 clubsport coilovers. We worked with KW closely to build our own option with spring rates of 400 lbs/in front and rear (with custom options available). You're basically get the more aggressive KW Clubsport coilover with a few our tweaks, but around the price of the KW V3s. And you get the lifetime warranty. Something to think about. - Andy

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