And yet another one! :'( - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

DjDATZ · 08-16-2012, 11:20 AM

http://jalopnik.com/5935304/dealersh...h-of-ownership

*sigh*

kanundrum · 08-16-2012, 11:25 AM

I think we need a Master FR-S/BRZ Wreck Thread. One Member a week will post I wrecked my FR-S./BRZ then we can start a club and get tshirts and all

DantKR · 08-16-2012, 11:26 AM

wtf happened there?

kendalldwhite · 08-16-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DantKR

wtf happened there?

I'm guessing the car hit curb going sideways and bent axle- rear tire and rim inward

BRZranger · 08-16-2012, 11:29 AM

There should be a sticky of all wrecked BRZ / FRSs. Looks like most of them are from oversteer into objects, being rear-ended and in parking lots.

Good reminders as I prefer to learn from others' mistakes.

Turbowned · 08-16-2012, 11:30 AM

And people claim that the FR-S has "better" suspension than the BRZ - have we seen any wrecked BRZ's yet? I think it's gotta be just a little bit too twitchy for people's own good! Reminds me of the 1991-92 MR2's and their snap-oversteer issues.

MVJ1975 · 08-16-2012, 11:34 AM

Yes, several wrecked BRZs in the "Another One Bites The Dust" thread.

TennisHsu · 08-16-2012, 12:41 PM

Unfortunately we are going to see a lot ruined FR-S/BRZ's. I had a salesman gawk over the car and recommend "You gotta turn off that traction control and get that thing sideways!" great advise! unfortunately I love my car too much. Just imagine if he sold this car to a drifting inspired teenager....

m.box.design · 08-16-2012, 12:56 PM

As much as I love to drive my car, I have my wife and child. I'm definitely not going to put myself or my car in danger. You have to imagine the logistics it takes to buy a car like this when you have a family.

So for now, I'm going to keep the trac ON and hoon it at the track only.

mediumbrown · 08-16-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned

And people claim that the FR-S has "better" suspension than the BRZ - have we seen any wrecked BRZ's yet?

"Through two months of sales, BRZ has sold 1,587 units and FR-S 4,419 units."

logically, that is part of the reason why there are less BRZ accident vs FR-S...

MattR · 08-16-2012, 01:07 PM

LOL @ the comments on the article!!

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Originally Posted by Jalopnik Reader

I dunno, bro, that looks pretty tight to me. Needs maybe a little more camber to take the dope up to eleven.

Mr 286 · 08-16-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned

And people claim that the FR-S has "better" suspension than the BRZ - have we seen any wrecked BRZ's yet? I think it's gotta be just a little bit too twitchy for people's own good! Reminds me of the 1991-92 MR2's and their snap-oversteer issues.

1) There are less BRZ models on the road. Lower probability of crashes. Also, it's likely that more younger (presumably less experienced) drivers will purchase the lower cost FR-S. Presumably higher probability of crashes.

2) The car isn't "twitchy" at all. Crashes can occur in any car for a number of reasons, driver error only being one of them. Yes, this car being RWD will require additional car control skills in certain situations. The handling is superb compared to many other cars I have driven including my MR2.

3) Speaking of which, I've driven 1991 MR2's both stock and modified for years, and also have driven the models with the revised suspension. I have never wrecked one. Some people just don't have enough car control skills. In fact, my '91 MR2 actually has an understeer bias even under braking because I've fitted coilovers, wide 9" rear wheels with 245 tread width, and 7.5" front wheels with 205 tread width.

Hotlava86 · 08-16-2012, 01:32 PM

god damn people must REALLY be pushing these things.....or just tap the throttle in the rain. Cause man even with the TRAC off and on dry roads i have just barely enough UMPH to get it a hair sideways. for SURE not enough to even think about losing it. people should have to take a test to be able to drive nice cars LMAO

ReVoiD · 08-16-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotlava86

god damn people must REALLY be pushing these things.....or just tap the throttle in the rain. Cause man even with the TRAC off and on dry roads i have just barely enough UMPH to get it a hair sideways. for SURE not enough to even think about losing it. people should have to take a test to be able to drive nice cars LMAO

this aint a mustang. you dont use power to drift you use the cars inertia taking a turn. much more difficult then using power over on a high hp car.

my last rwd car was a volvo 740 with 115hp from factory.. mine had gone past 500 000km so maybe 80hp left? and was able to drift with it in the dry! sure rain made it easier and snow even more so.. but you learn how to controll a car with low hp.

08-16-2012, 11:25 AM	#2
kanundrum Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 Whiteout FR-S Location: Laurel, MD Posts: 5,364 Thanks: 2,704 Thanked 3,016 Times in 1,711 Posts Mentioned: 106 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	I think we need a Master FR-S/BRZ Wreck Thread. One Member a week will post I wrecked my FR-S./BRZ then we can start a club and get tshirts and all __________________ Ive spent most of my life racing... The rest I just wasted

08-16-2012, 01:32 PM	#13
Hotlava86 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Hot lava Fr-s, 2007 Mazda 3 Location: kansas city missouri Posts: 282 Thanks: 30 Thanked 60 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	god damn people must REALLY be pushing these things.....or just tap the throttle in the rain. Cause man even with the TRAC off and on dry roads i have just barely enough UMPH to get it a hair sideways. for SURE not enough to even think about losing it. people should have to take a test to be able to drive nice cars LMAO __________________ Raising the bar one step at a time! Kansas City FR-S/BRZ Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/452909128083343/ Hotlava86's Build thread!http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14152

08-16-2012, 11:26 AM	#3
DantKR Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Drives: Subaru BRZ LT Location: NC Posts: 759 Thanks: 7 Thanked 124 Times in 71 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	wtf happened there?

08-16-2012, 11:29 AM	#5
BRZranger Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: Everett, WA Posts: 736 Thanks: 996 Thanked 268 Times in 180 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There should be a sticky of all wrecked BRZ / FRSs. Looks like most of them are from oversteer into objects, being rear-ended and in parking lots. Good reminders as I prefer to learn from others' mistakes.

08-16-2012, 12:41 PM	#8
TennisHsu Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Whiteout MT Scion FR-S Location: United States Posts: 135 Thanks: 109 Thanked 62 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Unfortunately we are going to see a lot ruined FR-S/BRZ's. I had a salesman gawk over the car and recommend "You gotta turn off that traction control and get that thing sideways!" great advise! unfortunately I love my car too much. Just imagine if he sold this car to a drifting inspired teenager....

08-16-2012, 12:56 PM	#9
m.box.design Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2013 Whiteout FRS Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 3,081 Thanks: 331 Thanked 1,662 Times in 933 Posts Mentioned: 107 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As much as I love to drive my car, I have my wife and child. I'm definitely not going to put myself or my car in danger. You have to imagine the logistics it takes to buy a car like this when you have a family. So for now, I'm going to keep the trac ON and hoon it at the track only.

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