BRZ/FRS - when they lose their charm... - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Marloon · 05-01-2012, 04:10 AM

Hey guys,

What happens when the BRZ and the FRS lose their charm? I have a feeling that it'll be like the newest celica when it came out in 2001(?) and now we see that car EVERYWHERE and its not at all special anymore.

Can you list a bunch of cars that have never or will never lose their charm? I think the S2000 is one, and the lotus exige is another because these cars are so darn rare.

I have a feeling that I will just jump ships 2-3 years later.

Kostamojen · 05-01-2012, 04:22 AM

Has the Miata ever lost its charm?

old greg · 05-01-2012, 04:23 AM

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coyote · 05-01-2012, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Has the Miata ever lost its charm?

No ... and it never will.

I had an RA28 Celica and still think they are a stylish piece of gear.

A 2001 Celica was never anything but a turd.

Cars don't lose their charm, people just say that when they realise they were originally wrong about them.

zigzagz94 · 05-01-2012, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Marloon

and now we see that car EVERYWHERE and its not at all special anymore.

I don't understand this line of logic. How does someone else having the same car suddenly make your car any better or worse. Does it negatively affect your cars acceleration, handling, or braking when you come into close proximity to other cars of the same model? If you enjoy your car why does it matter if it is "everywhere"?

I, for one, hope the FR-S/BRZ twins are everywhere because that means toyobaru sold a shit ton of them and now they have money to continually improve the car. If you don't see a lot of them that may make it " super cool rare car yo", but it also means it was a sales disaster that toyobaru will probably pull the plug on after one genertion and we'll have to wait another 20 years for them to bring back sports cars to the masses.

Lighting Red · 05-01-2012, 06:52 AM

Marloon,

When something is special, it's special. Part of what makes something special - really special - is that it has a timeless quality. I think these cars have really got "it." I know my response seems vague, but maybe I can clear it up by saying when people sell these cars in the future, I have a feeling that there will be a high probability of regret shortly after the sale.

I still feel that way about my Integra.

Bristecom · 05-01-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lighting Red

Marloon,

When something is special, it's special. Part of what makes something special - really special - is that it has a timeless quality. I think these cars have really got "it." I know my response seems vague, but maybe I can clear it up by saying when people sell these cars in the future, I have a feeling that there will be a high probability of regret shortly after the sale.

I still feel that way about my Integra.

Yeah, I don't think it will lose its charm. Maybe to those who are buying just because it's the new car on the block but for most of us, this car will always be something special. Just like my Eclipse GSX. That car is 12 years old (17 years if you start from the first year 2G model) but it still has more "charm" than any new car currently on the roads IMO.

Dave-ROR · 05-01-2012, 08:21 AM

I agree completely with the 4 posts above mine..

Draco-REX · 05-01-2012, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by zigzagz94

I don't understand this line of logic. How does someone else having the same car suddenly make your car any better or worse. Does it negatively affect your cars acceleration, handling, or braking when you come into close proximity to other cars of the same model? If you enjoy your car why does it matter if it is "everywhere"?

There can be only one!

ngabdala · 05-01-2012, 08:54 AM

I think every BRZ coming to the states will be sold.

The only thing I see happening is Subaru saying "Can you imagine how much more profit we could have made to meet demand of the car? We need to make more and also address concerns/reasons that prevented others from not buying."

MmmHamSandwich · 05-01-2012, 09:04 AM

If you wanted a car with exclusivity you shouldn't have bought one designed to be accessible.

DarkSunrise · 05-01-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ngabdala

I think every BRZ coming to the states will be sold.

The only thing I see happening is Subaru saying "Can you imagine how much more profit we could have made to meet demand of the car? We need to make more and also address concerns/reasons that prevented others from not buying."

Yep, I just worry the car's popularity will drive up the price. Hopefully other manufacturers will see the demand for these cars and starting developing more lightweight RWD cars for the US before Subaru/Toyota start price gouging.

7thgear · 05-01-2012, 09:31 AM

i think the OP assigns too much exclusivity to a car that wasn't supposed to have it

not really anyway

the original AE86 was a corolla, there were a ton of them made, the only reason it's exclusive now is because having a car built to last 10 years max is somehow still in demand 25 years after the fact!

also i'll disagree about the Celica.. maybe the bare-bones silver one is common, but any time i see a gt-s or that red-flame TRD special i kinda go "awesome".

i think your hipster dial is set to 11, gotta turn that down bro.

Duff_man · 05-01-2012, 09:57 AM

Be sad because many people have one?! why?? I don't get it honestly, because if your the only one to have a car, with who are you going to do meetings and talk about different modifications and upgrades for your car? When cruising on the roads, who are you going to wave hand? Like the subaru guys, or the jeep guys?

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Marloon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2012 Hyundai Elantra GLS Location: Richmond, BC Posts: 306 Thanks: 9 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	BRZ/FRS - when they lose their charm... Hey guys, What happens when the BRZ and the FRS lose their charm? I have a feeling that it'll be like the newest celica when it came out in 2001(?) and now we see that car EVERYWHERE and its not at all special anymore. Can you list a bunch of cars that have never or will never lose their charm? I think the S2000 is one, and the lotus exige is another because these cars are so darn rare. I have a feeling that I will just jump ships 2-3 years later.

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Lighting Red Habitual Line Crosser. Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: ^ Two of my favorite things. Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 327 Thanks: 115 Thanked 166 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Marloon, When something is special, it's special. Part of what makes something special - really special - is that it has a timeless quality. I think these cars have really got "it." I know my response seems vague, but maybe I can clear it up by saying when people sell these cars in the future, I have a feeling that there will be a high probability of regret shortly after the sale. I still feel that way about my Integra. __________________ But, but, but... It's only 200 hp?!

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Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	I agree completely with the 4 posts above mine.. __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

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7thgear i'm sorry, what? Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Canada Location: I rock a beat harder than you can beat it with rocks Posts: 4,399 Thanks: 357 Thanked 2,506 Times in 1,268 Posts Mentioned: 40 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	i think the OP assigns too much exclusivity to a car that wasn't supposed to have it not really anyway the original AE86 was a corolla, there were a ton of them made, the only reason it's exclusive now is because having a car built to last 10 years max is somehow still in demand 25 years after the fact! also i'll disagree about the Celica.. maybe the bare-bones silver one is common, but any time i see a gt-s or that red-flame TRD special i kinda go "awesome". i think your hipster dial is set to 11, gotta turn that down bro. __________________ don't you think if I was wrong, I'd know it?

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