follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Xero Limit
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum - FT86CLUB > Off-Topic Discussions > Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions

Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions Discuss all other cars and automotive news here.


View Poll Results: What name should Toyota use for the production Toyota FT-1?
Supra gets my vote! 367 74.59%
I don't know, but its time for a new name. 125 25.41%
Voters: 492. You may not vote on this poll

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-26-2015, 08:58 PM   #813
torqdork
Senior Member
 
torqdork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: RV-7
Location: Out West
Posts: 1,818
Thanks: 1,042
Thanked 893 Times in 562 Posts
Mentioned: 45 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
I prefer the SCAR rifle but this thread is already deep enough into the weeds.

Not sure if it's a generational thing either, but my idea of rolling sculpture at the same or better rumored price point of the FT-1 is the Jaguar F-Type Coupe 6M/T.

We can't all be Lewis Hamilton no matter how many aero devices are on our cars, so I'll settle for timeless beauty, mechanical grip and restrained aero restricted to less visually disruptive devices.




Last edited by torqdork; 07-26-2015 at 11:07 PM.
torqdork is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to torqdork For This Useful Post:
funwheeldrive (07-27-2015)
Old 07-27-2015, 07:38 AM   #814
Dadhawk
1st86 Driver!
 
Dadhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: "Olivia" my Firestorm 6AT FR-S
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 12,196
Thanks: 21,483
Thanked 11,716 Times in 5,763 Posts
Mentioned: 114 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noble713 View Post
.... Maybe this is a generational thing. I'm 32 so I've grown up on stealth fighters, giant Japanese robots, and M4 carbines with Picatinny rails. Things with hard edges are sexy and aggressive. There are very few smooth, sweeping, curvy-designed cars that I like (FD RX-7 is one).
Perhaps, and like most styles things cycle around so its interesting sometimes how things skip generations so that grandparents and grandchildren have more similar tastes than they do with their parents.


I grew up in the age of muscle cars, Stingrays, Countach's and the Lunar Lander, again more angular and such. Probably why I prefer the MK1 MR2 to the MK2, the C7 Corvette to the C5/6, and the earlier Supras to the last.
__________________

Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S
Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark.
What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".
Dadhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2015, 08:29 AM   #815
rlpaul
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Drives: point A to point C. Screw point B!
Location: NC
Posts: 228
Thanks: 30
Thanked 138 Times in 86 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dadhawk View Post
Perhaps, and like most styles things cycle around so its interesting sometimes how things skip generations so that grandparents and grandchildren have more similar tastes than they do with their parents.


I grew up in the age of muscle cars, Stingrays, Countach's and the Lunar Lander, again more angular and such. Probably why I prefer the MK1 MR2 to the MK2, the C7 Corvette to the C5/6, and the earlier Supras to the last.
Eh, I dunno. I find a '71 Hemi Cuda, or a '67 Stingray to be gorgeous.

I also find the MKIV Supra to be quite attractive, or say a DB7. Both fairly bulbous cars there (in comparison. At least to the Plymouth...).

On the other hand, while I find Koenigsegsgsdkgjsldghsd's (sigh, I hate trying to spell that) to be 'cool' looking, at the same time I think they're ugly

I can appreciate both the flowing lines of a '66 E-type just as much as the hard edges (and boxy/angular appearance) of an '86 Testarossa.

It all has to flow together. If it doesn't flow, doesn't matter if its organic, angular, sharp, or whatever. Then its just ugly.
rlpaul is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to rlpaul For This Useful Post:
Dadhawk (07-27-2015)
Old 07-27-2015, 08:38 AM   #816
Dadhawk
1st86 Driver!
 
Dadhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: "Olivia" my Firestorm 6AT FR-S
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 12,196
Thanks: 21,483
Thanked 11,716 Times in 5,763 Posts
Mentioned: 114 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by rlpaul View Post
It all has to flow together. If it doesn't flow, doesn't matter if its organic, angular, sharp, or whatever. Then its just ugly.
I think that may be the key as well. Again, its all in the eye of the beholder. I do like my share of "swoopy" cars, but it has to be just the right look.
__________________

Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S
Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark.
What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".
Dadhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2015, 12:24 PM   #817
torqdork
Senior Member
 
torqdork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: RV-7
Location: Out West
Posts: 1,818
Thanks: 1,042
Thanked 893 Times in 562 Posts
Mentioned: 45 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dadhawk View Post
I think that may be the key as well. Again, its all in the eye of the beholder. I do like my share of "swoopy" cars, but it has to be just the right look.
Agree with both of you, it's about perceived styling balance.

I appreciate balanced angular designs too, like the TR mentioned and designs that capture the best elements of both like Lambo Miura, Ferrari Daytona and split-window Stingray.

Still, my preference for road cars both from a design and driving dynamics standpoint are curvy F/R coupes or roadsters. There's something about the voluptuous long hood/short deck school that seems timeless to me that started with the first car to capture my attention when seen live, an AC Cobra.
torqdork is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to torqdork For This Useful Post:
Dadhawk (07-27-2015)
Old 07-27-2015, 02:36 PM   #818
synchromesh
Senior Member
 
synchromesh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: Ultramarine Blue
Location: Canada
Posts: 255
Thanks: 22
Thanked 55 Times in 45 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dadhawk View Post
Perhaps, and like most styles things cycle around so its interesting sometimes how things skip generations so that grandparents and grandchildren have more similar tastes than they do with their parents.


I grew up in the age of muscle cars, Stingrays, Countach's and the Lunar Lander, again more angular and such. Probably why I prefer the MK1 MR2 to the MK2, the C7 Corvette to the C5/6, and the earlier Supras to the last.

I never really knew why recently I've had less desire for angular cars. I dare say that my old E30 M3 that's now doubled up could be considered angular. I blame the sale sometimes on the old roommate who couldn't believe I paid 15g's for it, in a negative context. There were times I didn't think it was that great looking but I could easily make up looks equally or more, with a good storyline. Even though I had Countaches and Porsches with fins posters as a kid, I guess I was still pubescent.


The angular designs I cannot disrespect. It reminds me of when our hockey team once paid a California studio a million dollars to design a new jersey and logo in the 80's. You can see the theme in building architecture as well when you travel or browse around.


Going to the Jaguar dealer later today, but an ethics professor of mine once said in a lecture that you never see angular designs in nature ever.
Go against nature?
synchromesh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2015, 02:50 PM   #819
daiheadjai
Senior Member
 
daiheadjai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: 2003 S2000
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 1,783
Thanks: 1,957
Thanked 975 Times in 588 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by torqdork View Post
Not sure if it's a generational thing either, but my idea of rolling sculpture at the same or better rumored price point of the FT-1 is the Jaguar F-Type Coupe 6M/T.



That's not fair!
I can't imagine anyone who can find the F-type unattractive...
If they were blind, maybe - but once they hear that exhaust note....
daiheadjai is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to daiheadjai For This Useful Post:
torqdork (07-27-2015)
Old 07-27-2015, 03:29 PM   #820
Dadhawk
1st86 Driver!
 
Dadhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: "Olivia" my Firestorm 6AT FR-S
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 12,196
Thanks: 21,483
Thanked 11,716 Times in 5,763 Posts
Mentioned: 114 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by synchromesh View Post
Going to the Jaguar dealer later today, but an ethics professor of mine once said in a lecture that you never see angular designs in nature ever.
Go against nature?
Guess he never looked too closely at rock cliffs, crystalline structures or even snowflakes?

I do love Jags, and most Astons. They have contrasting curves, rising and falling. So, I guess it depends on the application. It's the ones that look like melted soap bars that just don't do much for me.
__________________

Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S
Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark.
What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".

Last edited by Dadhawk; 07-27-2015 at 03:41 PM.
Dadhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dadhawk For This Useful Post:
torqdork (07-27-2015)
Old 07-27-2015, 07:49 PM   #821
synchromesh
Senior Member
 
synchromesh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: Ultramarine Blue
Location: Canada
Posts: 255
Thanks: 22
Thanked 55 Times in 45 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dadhawk View Post
Guess he never looked too closely at rock cliffs, crystalline structures or even snowflakes?

I do love Jags, and most Astons. They have contrasting curves, rising and falling. So, I guess it depends on the application. It's the ones that look like melted soap bars that just don't do much for me.

Oops, I was in bit of a rush but I recall now he must of referred to 90 degrees square and it must have been microscopic or something. At that time I was daydreaming about e36 m3's and next year's 996 911, I guess Saw the guy one time shopping at the supermarket instead of an organic food market. Things that make you go hmmm.


The F-type was pretty amazing today He obviously wanted to arrange a test drive with the nice one(Coupe R) in the showroom. 700W stereo looked to be British made(heard they make some of the best) and seats fit well on my smallish frame compared to the C6 Corvette.


Entire data base history showed not one 6 speed manual sold or delivered ever! Told the guy needed to research the ZF gearbox and he clued in that, 10-20 grand, in options meant much more to me than a typical buyer he sells to.
synchromesh is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to synchromesh For This Useful Post:
Dadhawk (07-28-2015), torqdork (07-27-2015)
Old 07-27-2015, 11:36 PM   #822
torqdork
Senior Member
 
torqdork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: RV-7
Location: Out West
Posts: 1,818
Thanks: 1,042
Thanked 893 Times in 562 Posts
Mentioned: 45 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
I was hoping for a report on the F-Type S Coupe V-6 S/C 6M/T, my pick of the litter on paper. My dealership doesn't have any either. Did they give you an ETA?
torqdork is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2015, 01:09 AM   #823
abraxis
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Drives: many
Location: here
Posts: 463
Thanks: 190
Thanked 259 Times in 141 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Comparing F-type to the Supra now? Yeah, something elementary school kids would do during recess. Toyota is not chasing 55 year old golfing dentists.
abraxis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2015, 02:44 AM   #824
Tcoat
He who smelt it...
 
Tcoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 14 FRS Hot Lava
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 55,760
Thanks: 49,539
Thanked 77,666 Times in 35,153 Posts
Mentioned: 2033 Post(s)
Tagged: 49 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by synchromesh View Post

Entire data base history showed not one 6 speed manual sold or delivered ever! Told the guy needed to research the ZF gearbox and he clued in that, 10-20 grand, in options meant much more to me than a typical buyer he sells to.
The data base is apparently wrong since I have looked at two and drove one used F with the MT. A new F will be what I go to as my retirement car in about 8 years (if they still make them and they haven't been ruined)

Quote:
Originally Posted by abraxis View Post
Toyota is not chasing 55 year old golfing dentists.
Hey don't stereotype! I am not a dentist.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
Tcoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2015, 03:32 AM   #825
Guff
Now w/ over 400 womprats!
 
Guff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: BRZ LZR
Location: Texas/Illinois
Posts: 4,761
Thanks: 10,388
Thanked 3,331 Times in 1,405 Posts
Mentioned: 289 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by abraxis View Post
Toyota is not chasing 55 year old golfing dentists.
Funny enough, I've bought 4 MKIV Supras from Mid-50s Golfing Dentists. I personally think that they'll be buying the MKV too.
__________________
"Sweet Subaru, sweet Subaru, send your BRZ unto me, for the roads of the unworthy must be baptized in speed and glory."
- The Ancient BRZ Sacrament
by Zaku

Last edited by Guff; 07-28-2015 at 02:44 PM.
Guff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2015, 10:43 AM   #826
torqdork
Senior Member
 
torqdork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: RV-7
Location: Out West
Posts: 1,818
Thanks: 1,042
Thanked 893 Times in 562 Posts
Mentioned: 45 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Real men prefer voluptuous, swoopy Tatas.
torqdork is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to torqdork For This Useful Post:
jdmblood (07-28-2015)
 
Reply

Tags
bmwforsuckers, boring-zzzzzzzzzzzzz, ft-1, hatch-y +1, morethanucanaffordpal, nomanualnogo, supra, toyota, watstheretailon1ofthose

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Next Toyota Supra Spotted Fishbed77 Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 12 09-07-2016 06:46 PM
Rebooted Toyota Supra prototype finally seen! MR2fan Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 24 09-07-2016 04:46 PM
Toyota to Debut New Hybrid R Sports Concept at the Frankfurt Show: New Supra teased? vh_supra26 Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 15 11-05-2015 10:27 PM
Toyota Supra Concept picture husker741 Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 18 01-14-2014 10:28 AM
Toyota FR-S : Official Name for the FT-86 Concept? Dark Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 155 08-04-2010 11:05 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.