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Old 06-02-2012, 04:32 PM   #1
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Any (easy) way to stiffen up the feel of the clutch?

I love my new BRZ, but with the soft clutch its hard to know when the tranny couples with the engine. Is there some way I can adjust the clutch so I get more feel out of it?
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Check if there's a clutch delay valve; unhooking that will give you more direct and less dampened clutch feel.
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Make sure to post if you find an answer because I definitely would like a little more clutch feel....
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I love my new BRZ, but with the soft clutch its hard to know when the tranny couples with the engine. Is there some way I can adjust the clutch so I get more feel out of it?
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Honestly, when I just got the car I thought that it was needed too, but after roughly 500 miles I got used to it and don't think this is needed.
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Honestly, when I just got the car I thought that it was needed too, but after roughly 500 miles I got used to it and don't think this is needed.
But for those who do? Lol
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But for those who do? Lol
Buy TIS 2-day access for $15 and study the service manual portion related to clutch?
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Honestly, when I just got the car I thought that it was needed too, but after roughly 500 miles I got used to it and don't think this is needed.
At 250 miles now and I'm starting to get used to it a bit more I guess, but the entire rest of the car is so hard and precise that having a floppy clutch
is kinda a joke.
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Buy TIS 2-day access for $15 and study the service manual portion related to clutch?
Link?/where? Thnx btw
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That depends on what you consider "easy". The easiest solution would be to wait for some aftermarket clutch company to make a more heavily sprung clutch, buy it and pay someone else to install it for you. Alternatively, find out the bore of the stock clutch master cylinder (it should be stamped into the side of the MC), then get a larger bore clutch master cylinder for some other Subaru and hope it fits.
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(I don't have the car yet...) If it is like my previous IS300, there could be a tiny damper between the master and the slave in the engine, you just unscrew it, put a fitting to connecter the two ends together, and boom 100% more clutch feel.

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(I don't have the car yet...) If it is like my previous IS300, there could be a tiny damper between the master and the slave in the engine, you just unscrew it, put a fitting to connecter the two ends together, and boom 100% more clutch feel.

Is that line fluid filled or is it a vacuum line? What does the damper do? how does it change the feel exactly and are there any drawbacks?
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Is that line fluid filled or is it a vacuum line?
That's the hydraulic line for the clutch, the damper is mounted inline with the master and slave cylinders and effects the flow of fluid between the two.

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What does the damper do? how does it change the feel exactly and are there any drawbacks?
Short answer: NVH.

Torque pulses from the crankshaft cause vibrations in the flywheel that are transferred through the clutch release mechanism during clutch (dis)engagement. These vibrations travel through the clutch hydraulic line, through the master cylinder and into the pedal where they can be felt and sometimes heard by the driver. The damper gets rid of these vibrations.

It doesn't change the pedal effort, it just disconnects you a little from the clutch. It's a bit like steering rack bushings; the car turns the same with soft bushings but you don't get the same direct feedback/response feeling you would have with stiffer bushings.

On some cars, they are also set up to restrict the maximum flow rate of fluid from the slave cylinder to the master cylinder as a sort of anti-clutch-drop measure to help keep transmissions in one piece. A prime example is the WRX: 2002 = no damper, 2003 = damper.

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