4th gen ND Mazda MX-5 Miata

[serialk11r]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

I can't speak for the Boxster, but the base Cayman seats still have electric adjustability for the seatback, and manual adjustment for height and fore/aft movement. My Cayman S is about as light as you can get from the factory. Only option my car has is Sport Chrono. However I've yet to have it weighed, though I would imagine it's under 3000.

I am aware of that, but the 14-way adjustable seats are the most popular one I believe.

Since yours is an 06 (with M97 motor?) I think it probably doesn't get under 3000. The lightest factory 981s only barely get under 3000 from what I recall.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

I can't speak for the Boxster, but the base Cayman seats still have electric adjustability for the seatback, and manual adjustment for height and fore/aft movement. My Cayman S is about as light as you can get from the factory. Only option my car has is Sport Chrono. However I've yet to have it weighed, though I would imagine it's under 3000.

The base seats in my Cayman were one way adjustable.

[WolfpackS2k]

^you son of a bi....

Since yours is an 06 (with M97 motor?) I think it probably doesn't get under 3000. The lightest factory 981s only barely get under 3000 from what I recall.

Could be serialk11r. However Road & Track has the '06 Cayman S' weight listed as 2955 lb. And that car had PASM and power seats adding weight, though PCCB removing some weight.

[amram]

Originally Posted by noobcake

... and it seems to be the first car company to take a jab at the 86

agreed. Love my FR-S (need the 4 seat practicality) else would have probably gotten a Miata to begin with. More options is great for enthusiasts, no complaints. Your move Honda. Do it!!!

[chrisl]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

I can't speak for the Boxster, but the base Cayman seats still have electric adjustability for the seatback, and manual adjustment for height and fore/aft movement. My Cayman S is about as light as you can get from the factory. Only option my car has is Sport Chrono. However I've yet to have it weighed, though I would imagine it's under 3000.


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I would think yours is under 3k, yes. Mine is about 3050 with a mostly full tank, and it has the 17 way seats, nav, bose stereo, and several other non-performance related options (honestly, I'd rather it were a little more stripped out, but it was the best option available when I was in the market).

[imom]

Originally Posted by amram

agreed. Love my FR-S (need the 4 seat practicality) else would have probably gotten a Miata to begin with. More options is great for enthusiasts, no complaints. Your move Honda. Do it!!!

4 seat practicality doesn't seem to make sense in the 86 platform. Should have been a 2 seater with the same body shape, but made it a hatchback. Just like the 240z. I don't know how any grown men can fit back there for any length of time... it's about as small or smaller than mini cooper back seats. I don't remember but I would guess the 86 cars back seat is less. Little kids should be okay.

I really hope they change the front end of the mazda to something Josh Byrnes did with the design on carscoops. Side profile on this car with the top up looks pretty classy. My 2 cents...the new miata is a butter face.

[FRStock]

I'm surprised by some of the negative comments. It would make for an excellent track car and as we all drive twins, it would make sense that we appreciate the car.

However, I keep forgetting that I own a Scion and have to deal with some of the owners that buy the brand.

EDIT:
I would trade my FRS for the shooting brake Miata in a heartbeat.
http://jalopnik.com/great-job-mazda-...his-1630348337

Then I'd trade that for the shooting brake FRS/BRZ:
http://jalopnik.com/5974483/this-is-...shooting-brake

[pushrod]

Originally Posted by amram

agreed. Love my FR-S (need the 4 seat practicality)

Your FR-S has 4 seats? Mine came with two seats and two insurance reducers.

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by pushrod

Your FR-S has 4 seats? Mine came with two seats and two insurance reducers.

The only reason I got the BRZ instead of an s2000 was the back seats.

[Laika]

16's!!! It comes with 16" wheels standard...strange but that alone seems like a good indication to me that this will be a good driver's car. Mazda could have easily gone to bigger wheels and even a bigger car overall like how every single manufacturer does but they didn't.

I'm all for this iteration. I can see myself buying one but I cannot see myself getting rid of my BRZ....too many cars and not enough time.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by FRStock

I'm surprised by some of the negative comments. It would make for an excellent track car and as we all drive twins, it would make sense that we appreciate the car.

However, I keep forgetting that I own a Scion and have to deal with some of the owners that buy the brand.

I don't own a Scion, so leave that shit outside. I'm not sure why you think it would make sense for me to appreciate a Mazda because I drive a Subaru, or that I would appreciate a goofy-looking sports car because I drive a good-looking sports car.

What would make me appreciate the car is its handling characteristics, IF it turns out to be any good. But since it's not available for any of us to drive, I'm not sure why you think I should appreciate handling characteristics that don't exist yet.

All we have to go on is pictures and some vague stats that may or may not be real. And that front end is almost as goofy-looking as a Fisker. It's like this car is the Fisker's goofy stoned younger cousin.


"I say, looking good there old chap!"


"Dude, what?"

[fitcious]

aside from that mustache on the fisker, the rest of the body is great.

i've driven a karma and it drove great with its 900+ lb torque! i loved it. too bad it's gone now...

[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

There are people that still believe it will have more power? Ha. The famous creator wanted to downsize the engine with less power! I believe they were talking about a 1.3 turbocharged engine. The 2.0L was the biggest engine it's ever had or will have. Note that a 1.3L was throw around because they do not have a Skyactiv 1.5L, they only have the 1.3L Skyactiv used in the Mazda Demio(Mazda2 in the US). Which is also why the Mazda2 is still using the 1.5L MZR. Which is nothing like the bigger MZR, BTW. IMHO, they need to design a high output version of the 2.0L MZR for the US. But that is assuming they want to sell it to Americans. Hell, even if they made a 2.5L turbocharged version for the USDM, Americans would still want more power.

I remembered the statements about less power, smaller displacement. I also remember the statements about the next Mazdaspeed3 being NA.

I finally found my source for what I'd been talking about. It's hearsay, but I'll post it anyway since I'd been mentioning it: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...-mx-5-revealed

So far Mazda will only admit to power being provided by a newly developed SkyActiv engine that will be longitudinally mounted in the nose. However, there are likely to be two new direct-injection petrol engines on offer, one a 1.5-litre and one a 2.0-litre. Both are reworked versions of engines already powering the company’s hatchbacks and are likely to offer around 140bhp and 180bhp respectively. This represents a small power advantage over current models – our source admitted that the "US market wouldn’t accept less power" – but with the weight savings they promises superior power-to-weight ratios, extra performance and considerable fuel economy and CO2 advantages.

Either way, one of the test mules looked to have the 1.4 turbo out of the 500 Abarth in there, which I had posted earlier. 250 horsepower out of that engine isn't unheard of. Definitely pushing the limits, but 200 is just a piggyback/tune away for the most part.

[strat61caster]

Surprised there aren't more comments about the tires being 195 width considering how every auto-journalist in the world wouldn't shut the fuck up about the Toyobaru's " skinny little prius tires" at 215 width...

As for engine I'm banking on a retuned version of the 2.0L currently in the lineup, should be able to touch 170 with a small sacrifice to fuel economy. I'm with n20, I remember persistent rumors that they'll match the current output while delivering a more efficient engine, remember the NC only delivers 23 mpg mixed with the AT, that's in a car a couple hundred pounds lighter than the Toyobaru, with a smaller hole to punch through the air.

Edit: I'll bet cash money that the 1.4L multi-air will be on this chassis when Fiat feels like making a goddamn decision and putting out the spyder, I don't think Mazda will do it though, too much invested in SkyActiv to just hand over the beating heart of their halo car to the Italians.