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86_IT · 08-17-2017, 09:25 PM

Does anyone else here have the full Ace anaconda header, op, fp, laguna 100?

Fizz · 08-18-2017, 04:49 AM

This might have been asked few times before, but does the top end on CS400 noticeably compared lesser compared to the B250? If so, how much of a difference is there and at what rpm range (i.e. noticeable drop only above 7000rpm?)

Or does the CS400 just plateau at higher rpm range?

matchamochi · 08-25-2017, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybmx

Got a revised tune from Delicious, and got another 8 hp. So 16hp gain total. Supposedly that as far as they can push safely according to Delicious.

Did anyone from CSG/Ace address this? Is this normal? 16hp seems very low.. Is it possible you got a faulty header?

I would be pretty upset if I wasn't getting the results they constantly show to validate why the header is so expensive.

1Cor10:23 · 09-16-2017, 12:45 PM

Has anyone in the group tried the 4-2-1 with the Beatrush skid plate? Does it provide the clearance you need without hammering the stock plate?

Thanks.

1Cor10:23 · 09-16-2017, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ysu

I'm not that good, mind you, I have been tipped off by a friend

Attached pic, this is what it looks like.

If you don't mind me asking, how did you get this shot?

Thanks.

JSube · 09-16-2017, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matchamochi

Did anyone from CSG/Ace address this? Is this normal? 16hp seems very low.. Is it possible you got a faulty header?

I would be pretty upset if I wasn't getting the results they constantly show to validate why the header is so expensive.

This is concerning for me, as I'm about to order CSG's NA Power Pkg. I have a 2017, but your car is still very new. It seems like if many people were hitting the wall on a 16 whp gain with any regularity on a Delicious tune, we'd hear about it loud and clear on this forum. Cybmx, did DT explain what they were seeing in data logs that made it unsafe to adjust the ECU further?

Cybmx · 09-17-2017, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSube

This is concerning for me, as I'm about to order CSG's NA Power Pkg. I have a 2017, but your car is still very new. It seems like if many people were hitting the wall on a 16 whp gain with any regularity on a Delicious tune, we'd hear about it loud and clear on this forum. Cybmx, did DT explain what they were seeing in data logs that made it unsafe to adjust the ECU further?

Nothing to me personally, but to the shop I worked with perhaps. Basically saying that every car and environment is different. The car drives nicely so I can't really complain.

JSube · 09-17-2017, 01:51 PM

Looking at DT's website again today, I noticed their claims for a Stage 2 tune range from 16 whp at peak to 30whp. So after your second tune you came within their stated range. Since none of us think we'll be at the low end, we all assume we'll at least reach a gain of 20-25 whp, at least that's what I'm thinking. But of course, not everyone will =:0/
In my case, I'll probably not be willing to spend the $ on before and after dyno pulls, so I'll be blissfully ignorant of actual numbers. Just driving around enjoying the sound, linear power and lack of torque dip while my butt dyno registers a strong 27whp gain. Maybe that's the way to do it?

CSG Mike · 09-17-2017, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSube

Looking at DT's website again today, I noticed their claims for a Stage 2 tune range from 16 whp at peak to 30whp. So after your second tune you came within their stated range. Since none of us think we'll be at the low end, we all assume we'll at least reach a gain of 20-25 whp, at least that's what I'm thinking. But of course, not everyone will =:0/
In my case, I'll probably not be willing to spend the $ on before and after dyno pulls, so I'll be blissfully ignorant of actual numbers. Just driving around enjoying the sound, linear power and lack of torque dip while my butt dyno registers a strong 27whp gain. Maybe that's the way to do it?

What you'll really notice is the torque gain, particularly in the mid range.

JSube · 09-17-2017, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

What you'll really notice is the torque gain, particularly in the mid range.

Cool. I like torque. And less torque dip!

86_IT · 09-18-2017, 07:54 PM

Are there any graphs of the Anaconda vs 350? I'm interested in seeing how they compare since I have the Anaconda. I also have plans to build the motor and put cams in eventually which is why I chose the Anaconda over the 350.

Krion · 09-27-2017, 09:00 AM

So I installed my headers yesterday and the difference from stock is amazing. It feels like a totally different car.

The one thing I did notice is a pretty loud whooshing or shhhh sound under hard acceleration. Is this normal or do I have some type of exhaust leak?

Krion · 09-27-2017, 09:01 AM

So I installed my headers yesterday and the difference from stock is amazing. It feels like a totally different car.

The one thing I did notice is a pretty loud whooshing or shhhh sound under hard acceleration. Is this normal or do I have some type of exhaust leak?

jasonojordan · 09-27-2017, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krion

So I installed my headers yesterday and the difference from stock is amazing. It feels like a totally different car.

The one thing I did notice is a pretty loud whooshing or shhhh sound under hard acceleration. Is this normal or do I have some type of exhaust leak?

I hear that on mine as well.

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JSube Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Drives: 2017 ISM PP BRZ Location: KY Posts: 201 Thanks: 174 Thanked 164 Times in 81 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Looking at DT's website again today, I noticed their claims for a Stage 2 tune range from 16 whp at peak to 30whp. So after your second tune you came within their stated range. Since none of us think we'll be at the low end, we all assume we'll at least reach a gain of 20-25 whp, at least that's what I'm thinking. But of course, not everyone will =:0/ In my case, I'll probably not be willing to spend the $ on before and after dyno pulls, so I'll be blissfully ignorant of actual numbers. Just driving around enjoying the sound, linear power and lack of torque dip while my butt dyno registers a strong 27whp gain. Maybe that's the way to do it? Last edited by JSube; 09-17-2017 at 02:02 PM. Reason: added info

09-18-2017, 07:54 PM	#1229
86_IT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Drives: 2013 Satin White Pearl BRZ Limited Location: NORCAL Posts: 341 Thanks: 286 Thanked 130 Times in 83 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Are there any graphs of the Anaconda vs 350? I'm interested in seeing how they compare since I have the Anaconda. I also have plans to build the motor and put cams in eventually which is why I chose the Anaconda over the 350. __________________ Instagram: 86_IT Twitter: 86_IT_BRZ Facebook: 86itbrz Youtube:86 IT

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Fizz Senior Addict Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 86 GT Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 249 Thanked 336 Times in 215 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This might have been asked few times before, but does the top end on CS400 noticeably compared lesser compared to the B250? If so, how much of a difference is there and at what rpm range (i.e. noticeable drop only above 7000rpm?) Or does the CS400 just plateau at higher rpm range?

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