Better to have stickier tires up front or in rear?

[Estey]

For the people who think stickier tires should be on the back:
1. You have bigger brakes up front, so it makes sense to put the tires that can stop quicker in the front. Also oversteer is easier to control imo if you know what to do
2. Nobody should be worrying about wheels locking up on the street because we have ABS.

Op I would say sticky up front and not as sticky in back.

[radroach]

You want stickier tires in the rear because when you go around a corner your rear grip relies on those tires, whether you are on or off the throttle. If those slip, well goodnight.


If your front tires can't brake within a reasonable measure, then you shouldn't be using them.

[Estey]

Originally Posted by radroach

You want stickier tires in the rear because when you go around a corner your rear grip relies on those tires, whether you are on or off the throttle. If those slip, well goodnight.


If your front tires can't brake within a reasonable measure, then you shouldn't be using them.

but in this case we aren't talking about trashed tires, just two pairs with different levels of grip. At least that's what I'm assuming from the OP.

[justatroll]

Originally Posted by Estey

For the people who think stickier tires should be on the back:
1. You have bigger brakes up front, so it makes sense to put the tires that can stop quicker in the front. Also oversteer is easier to control imo if you know what to do
2. Nobody should be worrying about wheels locking up on the street because we have ABS.

Op I would say sticky up front and not as sticky in back.

So you are basically saying "Ignore what the TIRE EXPERTS say and listen to me"

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52

"The ability to sense and control predictable understeer with the new tires on the rear and the helplessness in trying to control the surprising oversteer with the new tires on the front was emphatically proven."

"When replacing only two tires, the new ones go on the front.
The truth: Rear tires provide stability, and without stability, steering or braking on a wet or even damp surface might cause a spin. If you have new tires up front, they will easily disperse water while the half-worn rears will go surfing: The water will literally lift the worn rear tires off the road. If you're in a slight corner or on a crowned road, the car will spin out so fast you won't be able to say, "Oh, fudge!""

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...nked-10031440/

"Stop with the “even ifs.” No matter if your vehicle is front-, rear-, or all-wheel-drive, a pickup, a sporty car, or an SUV: If you buy only two new tires, you should put them on the back, according to tire manufacturer Michelin North America."

https://blog.allstate.com/new-tires-rear/

"The worn rear tires have less tread and lower hydroplaning resistance. They can lose their grip on wet roads, causing the rear end of the vehicle to swing around out of control."
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTiresRear.do



As I stated above: Wilwood and Tilton make some pretty good cash from Brake Bias valves that are specifically designed to reduce rear braking force to improve handling. WHY would they do such a thing? Because a car that locks the rear brakes before the fronts is a hazard. Perhaps they are smoking crack too?

Although you ARE correct that our car has an electronic brake bias system that mostly negates the effects of a minor discrepancy between front & rear traction, but it still cannot negate physics.

[Estey]

Originally Posted by justatroll

So you are basically saying "Ignore what the TIRE EXPERTS say and listen to me"

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52

"The ability to sense and control predictable understeer with the new tires on the rear and the helplessness in trying to control the surprising oversteer with the new tires on the front was emphatically proven."

"When replacing only two tires, the new ones go on the front.
The truth: Rear tires provide stability, and without stability, steering or braking on a wet or even damp surface might cause a spin. If you have new tires up front, they will easily disperse water while the half-worn rears will go surfing: The water will literally lift the worn rear tires off the road. If you're in a slight corner or on a crowned road, the car will spin out so fast you won't be able to say, "Oh, fudge!""

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...nked-10031440/

"Stop with the “even ifs.” No matter if your vehicle is front-, rear-, or all-wheel-drive, a pickup, a sporty car, or an SUV: If you buy only two new tires, you should put them on the back, according to tire manufacturer Michelin North America."

https://blog.allstate.com/new-tires-rear/

"The worn rear tires have less tread and lower hydroplaning resistance. They can lose their grip on wet roads, causing the rear end of the vehicle to swing around out of control."
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTiresRear.do



As I stated above: Wilwood and Tilton make some pretty good cash from Brake Bias valves that are specifically designed to reduce rear braking force to improve handling. WHY would they do such a thing? Because a car that locks the rear brakes before the fronts is a hazard. Perhaps they are smoking crack too?

Although you ARE correct that our car has an electronic brake bias system that mostly negates the effects of a minor discrepancy between front & rear traction, but it still cannot negate physics.

I'm not ignoring what anyone is saying, I'm simply answering the original question. From what I understand both pairs of tires will be new or have very few miles on them. All of the research you provided is referring to an instance where a person only replaces two tires with new ones.
If I had to buy two new tires, I would throw the used up front and the new in the rear. I'm not arguing that.

[Leonardo]

OK. I am going to fix the title.

It is best to have sticky tires up front And in the rear.

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[rookie]

Sticky is good.

[nickmerronesucks]

My rear is all sticky after this thread.

[Impureclient]

Originally Posted by nickmerronesucks

My rear is all sticky after this thread.

My rear end has been sticky since I got my car. This thread is gross.

[RJasonKlein]

I get it - you're a drifter and you're trying to figure out the best way to use what you have. That said, what you're doing isn't ideal in any way. Unless you're a stance guy and more into looks than performance, there's no question that our cars perform better on a square set up on light wheels with medium tread widths. Doing what you want to do will adversely affect the way the car handles - there's no two ways around it. You can put the sticky compounds up front and promote oversteer or put them on the back and promote understeer, but the balance will be changed...enough said.

This is pretty basic stuff, you knew this before you posted, and you don't seem like you really want to hear people's opinions on one way versus the other - so why did you ask?

[Rendereason]

Better tires in the rear. If you are pushing the car to its limits you will have better control. You will also have better acceleration (RWD) and stability. Most of your traction must be on the rear, as it will give the car better handling, but more understeer. I have stickier tires in the rear and stock tires in the front and it doesn't make much difference in steering. The car will handle much more stably because of the stickiness in the back.


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[nickmerronesucks]

Originally Posted by RJasonKlein

I get it - you're a drifter and you're trying to figure out the best way to use what you have. That said, what you're doing isn't ideal in any way. Unless you're a stance guy and more into looks than performance, there's no question that our cars perform better on a square set up on light wheels with medium tread widths. Doing what you want to do will adversely affect the way the car handles - there's no two ways around it. You can put the sticky compounds up front and promote oversteer or put them on the back and promote understeer, but the balance will be changed...enough said.

This is pretty basic stuff, you knew this before you posted, and you don't seem like you really want to hear people's opinions on one way versus the other - so why did you ask?

I have no interested in drifting this car. I should have been a bit more clear when asking my question. I didn't want to hear peoples opinions because most of them thought i was asking about tread.