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ScoobsMcGee · 03-19-2019, 10:33 AM

Color options are up on toyota.com

https://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/gr-supra/

I never was a fan of the design when shown in red or white, but I actually rather like it in blue. A bit more glad that it doesn't currently come with a manual. Decently optioned in premium trim for about $54,000. As opposed to a base Cayman that, once you tack on similar options, quickly hits $68,000 - $70,000.

mazeroni · 03-19-2019, 11:06 AM

I'd go with Turbulence Gray. Although my opinion is that yellow is a great color on sports cars, so it would be a tough decision.

funwheeldrive · 03-19-2019, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ScoobsMcGee

Color options are up on toyota.com

https://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/gr-supra/

I never was a fan of the design when shown in red or white, but I actually rather like it in blue. A bit more glad that it doesn't currently come with a manual. Decently optioned in premium trim for about $54,000. As opposed to a base Cayman that, once you tack on similar options, quickly hits $68,000 - $70,000.

Don't forget the dealer markup

ScoobsMcGee · 03-20-2019, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Don't forget the dealer markup

I'm genuinely not sure which one would have more markup. I wouldn't put it past Porsche dealers to throw more markup on a Cayman if the Supra gets close to the same cost, just because they can get away with it.

funwheeldrive · 03-20-2019, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ScoobsMcGee

I'm genuinely not sure which one would have more markup. I wouldn't put it past Porsche dealers to throw more markup on a Cayman if the Supra gets close to the same cost, just because they can get away with it.

I would imagine the annual production numbers for the Supra are going to be way less compared to the Cayman.

krayzie · 03-20-2019, 04:52 PM

Porsche is like today's Swiss watch of cars they can get away with charging a premium for anything and everything.

Toyota like most Japanese consumer goods producers are trying hard to adopt this concept with luxury branding but I would imagine the Toyota branded Supra would be hard to charge a premium, so they'll justify the pricing with limited production.

vh_supra26 · 03-20-2019, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

I would imagine the annual production numbers for the Supra are going to be way less compared to the Cayman.

I was told they were hoping to sale around 1,000 Supras a months.

Tcoat · 03-20-2019, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26

I was told they were hoping to sale around 1,000 Supras a months.

First year or on going? Probably easily obtainable first run but would be a difficult number to maintain in a declining market for GT type cars.

Tcoat · 03-20-2019, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

I would imagine the annual production numbers for the Supra are going to be way less compared to the Cayman.

I doubt that. Maybe about the same.

gymratter · 03-20-2019, 11:44 PM

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/201...in-japan.1692/

Irace86.2.0 · 03-21-2019, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

I doubt that. Maybe about the same.

Are those US sales? Those look about the same as US BRZ sales.

Irace86.2.0 · 03-21-2019, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

First year or on going? Probably easily obtainable first run but would be a difficult number to maintain in a declining market for GT type cars.

Worldwide? Probably in the first few years like you said but it’ll taper fast. Maybe less tapering if the potential and reviews from owners is good.

mazeroni · 03-21-2019, 10:12 AM

1K a month worldwide should be doable.

The 718 isn't a great comparison. It's valid, but you have to consider that with Porsche, a lot of buyers will stretch their budget for a 911, so that dilutes the numbers of both cars.

Also, I agree that the pricing of the 718 is definitely another factor to consider. When you go to a Porsche lot I would expect dealers to stock well-optioned cars reaching into the $80K+ range. If you are already stretching to afford $60K and you don't want to wait 6 months for a special order, the Supra may be a good alternative if Toyota can get those shoppers into the showroom.

So for the Supra, packaging options and making it easy for buyers to get what they want at a reasonable price should make it easier to move cars.

If they can't hit those numbers, they can still break out the I4 or start launching special edition models with more features, power, etc.

vh_supra26 · 03-21-2019, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

First year or on going? Probably easily obtainable first run but would be a difficult number to maintain in a declining market for GT type cars.

I don't know, maybe just the first year.

And to the few post above. The guy claims that it would be 1,000 units a month just for North America.

View Poll Results: How many 86 owners are planning on getting the Supra?
I'm definitely getting one	32	12.17%
I might get one if they offer a MT	100	38.02%
No, not me.	131	49.81%
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03-20-2019, 11:44 PM	#920
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03-19-2019, 10:33 AM	#911
ScoobsMcGee Junior Senior with Cheese Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: 15 BRZ Location: York, PA Posts: 2,998 Thanks: 6,795 Thanked 7,013 Times in 2,337 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Color options are up on toyota.com https://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/gr-supra/ I never was a fan of the design when shown in red or white, but I actually rather like it in blue. A bit more glad that it doesn't currently come with a manual. Decently optioned in premium trim for about $54,000. As opposed to a base Cayman that, once you tack on similar options, quickly hits $68,000 - $70,000.

03-19-2019, 11:06 AM	#912
mazeroni Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Series 10 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,116 Thanks: 600 Thanked 1,017 Times in 512 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'd go with Turbulence Gray. Although my opinion is that yellow is a great color on sports cars, so it would be a tough decision.

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krayzie Drive From Home Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: BRZ STI Performance Location: Filth City Posts: 4,914 Thanks: 2,368 Thanked 3,111 Times in 2,007 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Porsche is like today's Swiss watch of cars they can get away with charging a premium for anything and everything. Toyota like most Japanese consumer goods producers are trying hard to adopt this concept with luxury branding but I would imagine the Toyota branded Supra would be hard to charge a premium, so they'll justify the pricing with limited production.

03-21-2019, 10:12 AM	#923
mazeroni Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Series 10 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,116 Thanks: 600 Thanked 1,017 Times in 512 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	1K a month worldwide should be doable. The 718 isn't a great comparison. It's valid, but you have to consider that with Porsche, a lot of buyers will stretch their budget for a 911, so that dilutes the numbers of both cars. Also, I agree that the pricing of the 718 is definitely another factor to consider. When you go to a Porsche lot I would expect dealers to stock well-optioned cars reaching into the $80K+ range. If you are already stretching to afford $60K and you don't want to wait 6 months for a special order, the Supra may be a good alternative if Toyota can get those shoppers into the showroom. So for the Supra, packaging options and making it easy for buyers to get what they want at a reasonable price should make it easier to move cars. If they can't hit those numbers, they can still break out the I4 or start launching special edition models with more features, power, etc.

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