Gruppe M / Revolution garage intake

[Dr. BRZ]

My question is, i wonder if this dual snorkel intake will provide higher or just as same power gains as the greddy itb's. This is including a bigger throttle body. If it provides the same gains at least, looking at cost, the revolution intake is very much worth it.

[RayRay88]

Originally Posted by Dr. BRZ

My question is, i wonder if this dual snorkel intake will provide higher or just as same power gains as the greddy itb's. This is including a bigger throttle body. If it provides the same gains at least, looking at cost, the revolution intake is very much worth it.

They're not even in the same league in terms of power adders...

[Dr. BRZ]

Originally Posted by RayRay88

They're not even in the same league in terms of power adders...

From what ive read this setup revolution intake and the guy in the greddy itb post are pulling the same numbers on 91.
$1500 vs $3000

[RayRay88]

Originally Posted by Dr. BRZ

From what ive read this setup revolution intake and the guy in the greddy itb post are pulling the same numbers on 91.
$1500 vs $3000

The ITB's will net you much more mid range/overall torque, not to mention throttle response will be drastically sharper with the ITB's.



Please don't take offense to this, but if you're cross shopping the two then the ITB's are not for you.

[Dr. BRZ]

Originally Posted by RayRay88

The ITB's will net you much more mid range/overall torque, not to mention throttle response will be drastically sharper with the ITB's.



Please don't take offense to this, but if you're cross shopping the two then the ITB's are not for you.

The only difference between the 2 i see, is the itb's gave just a lil more torque than the dual ram intake. The throttle response has increased in both, claimed from the owners and gave good mid range too. Until i see counterspace garage pull some big numbers and not similar numbers, people are going to lean towards the revolution intake, NA style.

Read this guy's post, he describes the same results from the guy with the itb.

[Dr. BRZ]

Keep in mind, @Mockinbird87 dyno is with the stock throttle body and not the suggested bigger throttle body, which tells the revolution intake could pull more numbers.

[RayRay88]

Originally Posted by Dr. BRZ

The only difference between the 2 i see, is the itb's gave just a lil more torque than the dual ram intake. The throttle response has increased in both, claimed from the owners and gave good mid range too. Until i see counterspace garage pull some big numbers and not similar numbers, people are going to lean towards the revolution intake, NA style.

Read this guy's post, he describes the same results from the guy with the itb.

Throttle response with ITB's will still be significantly better than any intake can provide.

The last dyno from an ITB'd twin showed close to 180 wtq. I know its not a fair comparison but it's substantial enough. He also was reporting near 60 whp increase over stock with ITB's and a nameless header.

It's hard to say without a back to back dyno comparison but it's safe to say you won't get the same type of dyno curves with just an intake and throttle body.

Not to mention it's not $1500 vs $3000

ITB's require a ton of work to get them to sync/run with the engine. Then comes the hours of dyno tuning to get the most out of them.

You can easily double the cost of the ITB's.

Like I said if you're cross shopping an intake and ITB's, the ITB's are not for you.

[Hawk77FT]

Why not both? I am planning to get the SARD ITB at some point and couple it with my intake

[Dr. BRZ]

Originally Posted by Hawk77FT

Why not both? I am planning to get the SARD ITB at some point and couple it with my intake

I thought about that too but too much $$$$$.
I'm all NA but i dont want to spend that much $$$$

[Lantanafrs2]

I don't think we've seen an accurate dyno graph yet for itbs in terms of delta over stock.

[RayRay88]

Originally Posted by Dr. BRZ

I thought about that too but too much $$$$$.
I'm all NA but i dont want to spend that much $$$$

NA Is probably the most expensive way to make power.
Have you thought about a positive displacement supercharger? Might be what you’re really after.

[Dr. BRZ]

Originally Posted by RayRay88

NA Is probably the most expensive way to make power.
Have you thought about a positive displacement supercharger? Might be what you’re really after.

I have a nitrous kit sitting in the garage, waiting for summer to install.

[Lantanafrs2]

I wouldn't even consider itbs til we get results from delicious

[Hawk77FT]

On my list I have ITB, displacement kit, Supercharger. That should give me some good reliable power