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Dezoris · 07-18-2013, 08:39 PM

My cooler has been solid works better than expected.
@PERRIN_Mladen

My aeroquip hoses are too tight for my application can you have Jeff fab up some custom stainless lines with black fittings from BAT? Also with additional abrasion protection included?

deange · 07-18-2013, 09:41 PM

Dezoris,

Is the tightness of the hoses the result of the different headlight shape between the FRS / BRZ (I'm assuming it was prototype'd on a BRZ given the review in your build thread)? I can see how / where it would rub and your issue makes me think it might be better to go with SS lines as well.

LeeMaster · 07-21-2013, 07:44 PM

I'm just going to drop this here since I'm not getting help from nobody. I noticed oil leaking through the bottom piece of the Perrin spacer. So I took it out and noticed that the gasket is worn out after 4,000 miles.

Oil is sneaking through these holes..

Leaking through the piece on the top circle, initial damage through the bottom circle(maybe)

@PERRIN, can SOMEBODY help diagnose this issue!?

deange · 07-21-2013, 09:48 PM

Any chance it could have been torqued down too hard? Did you already call Perrin?

LeeMaster · 07-22-2013, 01:35 AM

^ The instructions didnt even state the torque specs. I torqued it down enough so there wont be any free play with the system.

deange · 07-22-2013, 02:00 AM

Did you try and get a hold of Perrin? I appreciate you letting the rest of us know about the issue, but I'd give them a chance to fix it first. I am interested to see what they say though.

I know the spacer in the Perrin kit is different from the standard Mocal one (Perrin one is black, and the Mocal one is silver) but I don't see much actual physical difference between the two.

The picture below is the Mocal one. The original poster of the picture did say he was non-plussed about the appearance of the Mocal one though. Link to the original post here

BatStig · 07-22-2013, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeMaster

^ The instructions didnt even state the torque specs. I torqued it down enough so there wont be any free play with the system.

In Perrin's instructions step 15g: Fully tighten thermostat housing adapter. Using a 27mm socket, tighten to roughly 25ft-lbs.

LeeMaster · 07-22-2013, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deange

Did you try and get a hold of Perrin? I appreciate you letting the rest of us know about the issue, but I'd give them a chance to fix it first. I am interested to see what they say though.

It's Monday, I'll give them a call today and see what they have to say, it's been so quiet on the forums lately though...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypso

In Perrin's instructions step 15g: Fully tighten thermostat housing adapter. Using a 27mm socket, tighten to roughly 25ft-lbs.

They must've updated it, the instructions I have didn't even have what size socket to use, I remember running to autozone a couple of times because the instructions didn't list it(I bought the Oil cooler in the first month of release).

Thanks!

PERRIN_Chris · 07-22-2013, 11:20 AM

LeeMaster, sorry about the O ring! We have updated the seal a while back to use two smaller O rings that should hold up better. PM me your info and we will get the new seals out ASAP!

Dezoris · 07-22-2013, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deange

Dezoris,

Is the tightness of the hoses the result of the different headlight shape between the FRS / BRZ (I'm assuming it was prototype'd on a BRZ given the review in your build thread)? I can see how / where it would rub and your issue makes me think it might be better to go with SS lines as well.

Yes the prototype was built with Jeff's BRZ. When Chris sent me pics of the car with the Vortech kit, the lines were run differently because the BRZ headlamp design allows more clearance than the FRS.

So on the FRS with Vortech the lines are basically pinched going down the next to the intercooler pipes.
@PERRIN_Chris

Chris I know we discussed this before but any chance Jeff can fab up some actual stainless lines from BAT? (Black with Black Fittings)

Or are you guys still too buried?

deange · 07-22-2013, 12:29 PM

Thanks for responding. I thought that might be the difference. There was plenty of room for the lines on my BRZ but I don't have a Vortech on there... yet.

swift996 · 07-22-2013, 02:04 PM

@PERRIN_Chris

Sorry if I missed it but when is the re-released version going to be available? I got some hot oil!

PERRIN_Chris · 07-22-2013, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris

Yes the prototype was built with Jeff's BRZ. When Chris sent me pics of the car with the Vortech kit, the lines were run differently because the BRZ headlamp design allows more clearance than the FRS.

So on the FRS with Vortech the lines are basically pinched going down the next to the intercooler pipes.
@PERRIN_Chris

Chris I know we discussed this before but any chance Jeff can fab up some actual stainless lines from BAT? (Black with Black Fittings)

Or are you guys still too buried?

I'll talk to Jeff and see if that is something that he's working on, or if we can do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by swift996

@PERRIN_Chris

Sorry if I missed it but when is the re-released version going to be available? I got some hot oil!

The new oil cooler kits are ready to go right now! We've shipped out a few kits late last week, and we will be shipping more very soon.

swift996 · 07-25-2013, 01:53 PM

I ordered mine the other day in black

I can't wait because I'm dying to get back out to the track!

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Dezoris Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: IL Posts: 2,857 Thanks: 519 Thanked 2,997 Times in 1,095 Posts Mentioned: 159 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	My cooler has been solid works better than expected. @PERRIN_Mladen My aeroquip hoses are too tight for my application can you have Jeff fab up some custom stainless lines with black fittings from BAT? Also with additional abrasion protection included? __________________ SAVAGEGEESE

07-21-2013, 07:44 PM	#87
LeeMaster Red wine Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ(R.I.P) Location: Denied Posts: 1,176 Thanks: 1,268 Thanked 342 Times in 240 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm just going to drop this here since I'm not getting help from nobody. I noticed oil leaking through the bottom piece of the Perrin spacer. So I took it out and noticed that the gasket is worn out after 4,000 miles. Oil is sneaking through these holes.. Leaking through the piece on the top circle, initial damage through the bottom circle(maybe) @PERRIN, can SOMEBODY help diagnose this issue!? __________________

07-22-2013, 01:35 AM	#89
LeeMaster Red wine Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ(R.I.P) Location: Denied Posts: 1,176 Thanks: 1,268 Thanked 342 Times in 240 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ The instructions didnt even state the torque specs. I torqued it down enough so there wont be any free play with the system. __________________

07-22-2013, 02:00 AM	#90
deange Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Black 2013 BRZ Limited Automatic Location: Southern California Posts: 84 Thanks: 5 Thanked 51 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Did you try and get a hold of Perrin? I appreciate you letting the rest of us know about the issue, but I'd give them a chance to fix it first. I am interested to see what they say though. I know the spacer in the Perrin kit is different from the standard Mocal one (Perrin one is black, and the Mocal one is silver) but I don't see much actual physical difference between the two. The picture below is the Mocal one. The original poster of the picture did say he was non-plussed about the appearance of the Mocal one though. Link to the original post here Attached Images

07-22-2013, 02:04 PM	#96
swift996 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 2,432 Thanks: 712 Thanked 954 Times in 545 Posts Mentioned: 47 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	@PERRIN_Chris Sorry if I missed it but when is the re-released version going to be available? I got some hot oil! __________________ Innovate Supercharged Black Limited BRZ 6-Speed MT(Build Thread) 2010 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan M6 w/550whp (Build Thread)

07-18-2013, 09:41 PM	#86
deange Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Black 2013 BRZ Limited Automatic Location: Southern California Posts: 84 Thanks: 5 Thanked 51 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dezoris, Is the tightness of the hoses the result of the different headlight shape between the FRS / BRZ (I'm assuming it was prototype'd on a BRZ given the review in your build thread)? I can see how / where it would rub and your issue makes me think it might be better to go with SS lines as well.

07-21-2013, 09:48 PM	#88
deange Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Black 2013 BRZ Limited Automatic Location: Southern California Posts: 84 Thanks: 5 Thanked 51 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Any chance it could have been torqued down too hard? Did you already call Perrin?

07-22-2013, 12:29 PM	#95
deange Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Black 2013 BRZ Limited Automatic Location: Southern California Posts: 84 Thanks: 5 Thanked 51 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks for responding. I thought that might be the difference. There was plenty of room for the lines on my BRZ but I don't have a Vortech on there... yet.

07-25-2013, 01:53 PM	#98
swift996 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 2,432 Thanks: 712 Thanked 954 Times in 545 Posts Mentioned: 47 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I ordered mine the other day in black I can't wait because I'm dying to get back out to the track! __________________ Innovate Supercharged Black Limited BRZ 6-Speed MT(Build Thread) 2010 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan M6 w/550whp (Build Thread)

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