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12-08-2011, 01:14 PM | #15 |
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But for performance the real magic is the new Subaru engines are really worlds apart from the old EJ engines... They claim that the engine alone can make more power, better economy, better emissions, in a smaller engine per CC vs their older EJ brother. a EJ207(STI) vs FA205(WRX) the FA will be much better equipped, more efficient and at a lower manufacturing cost. Quote:
at the LA autoshow, Subaru said that WRX STI was to get the same 2L engine from the new WRX but be +300hp. Funny how NASIOC responded to this.."subaru why you no make 400hp"
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Well, i thought the engine for the next gen wrx will be a 1.6l turbocharged?
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Since the headers run under the engine and the engine sits so low on the BRZ/86, fitting a turbo+piping down there would be next to impossible without risking it hitting the pavement every time you hit a small bump. In the WRX the engine sits much higher up, which will give enough room for that stuff.
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I agree with the notion that the STI model will just be a tad lighter without an increase in power. Plus, in order to even make a turbo possible in this chassis, they'll have to move the engine further up or just in a different position for it to even fit. A lighter STI would make A LOT more sense. This car doesn't need a huge boost in power, just some further weight loss. Hell, even the Lotus Elise with only 189hp N/A can run with the best of them at the track.
Or just do what Lotus did with the Exige and drop in a supercharger. Much easier to accomplish with the current configuration and will keep a lot of whiners happy. |
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In California it would be a lot easier to pass inspection. Swapping a motor from newer car into an older car is CARB legal if you include all of the newer car's emissions control stuff. Swapping an older motor into a newer car is a no-no. So Cali folks could swap in a turbo motor, and be making 270+ without having to worry about the fuzz.
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According to Autoblog locating a turbo is physically not possible?
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/05/2...-drive-review/ Quote:
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Actually, I stand corrected. It might be possible to drop in a turbo, but it'll have to be a rear mounted one. Although, since this is only a 4 banger, it will lag A LOT! I normally only see those in Corvettes and Vipers and even on those cars that setup lags quite a bit.
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This is interesting news to me, because I was also under the impression that the newly redesigned WRX is supposed to also take some design principles from the BRZ. Now it will be getting the more powerful turbo BRZ motor as well.
I am just curious how they are going to work this at the dealership. Subaru is finally changing it's line up to have the WRX and STI break away from the Impreza name, to differentiate the two markets. Now it seems that they are going to kinda replace the base Impreza with the BRZ. You can have a well handling FR, or get it's boosted AWD older brother? .... and for how much of a price difference? Now more then ever I feel that Subaru really needs to hit the right price point. Otherwise I, who was planning to buy the day these hit the lot, will wait patiently to see how things all pan out. |
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