Help with loose wiring - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Terran · 10-09-2016, 07:08 PM

Anyone know what these two orange wires are that got disconnected from this harness? The orange wires go to a little black box under the steering wheel. The photos are with the driver side panel taken off.

nextcar · 10-09-2016, 08:01 PM

Note that the wires do not appear to go into a harness.

So, was this a used car? Did a dealer install an aftermarket alarm system to lower their insurance rates? What no longer functions on your car?

Impureclient · 10-09-2016, 08:06 PM

In a Delorean, it's right beside between the front seats but in a FRS I think our Flux Capacitor is in the trunk. Could be the wiring for that. Have you tried going 88 pmh yet?

Terran · 10-09-2016, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nextcar

Note that the wires do not appear to go into a harness.

So, was this a used car? Did a dealer install an aftermarket alarm system to lower their insurance rates? What no longer functions on your car?

No, everything is stock. The orange wires that you see got disconnected from the the yellow butt connectors, I pulled out that harness so that you could clearly see the orange wires that should be connected to the yellow but connectors. I tried to test and troubleshoot to see what doesn't work anymore, but I can't seem to pinpoint it

Yal · 10-09-2016, 09:54 PM

It screams aftermarket or add on to me. I don't think I've ever seen a butt connector in a stock car (auto tech son agrees).

humfrz · 10-09-2016, 11:13 PM

The internet tells me that Toyota commonly uses orange wires for illumination circuits.

Do all your dash/interior lights work .. ??

humfrz

ToySub1946 · 10-09-2016, 11:44 PM

It is common for dealerships to add simple anti-theft devices to new cars in their stock.

If the customer opts to not pay for the device the service techs within the service dept. can disarm/disconnect the device.

A little black box under the steering wheel certainly sounds like it could be such a device.

Those connectors (small orange and yellow wires) are definitely not items the manufacturer would use in wiring/assembly of a new vehicle. Tapping into the large white with black tracer wire is also not factory.

You have not stated what you think that 4-pin connector is for, and if it is plugged into the car's factory wiring ?

billwot · 10-09-2016, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

It is common for dealerships to add simple anti-theft devices to new cars in their stock.

If the customer opts to not pay for the device the service techs within the service dept. can disarm/disconnect the device.

A little black box under the steering wheel certainly sounds like it could be such a device.

Those connectors (small orange and yellow wires) are definitely not items the manufacturer would use in wiring/assembly of a new vehicle. Tapping into the large white with black tracer wire is also not factory.

Ashikabi · 10-10-2016, 08:32 AM

Yes, what is that plug go to? There is a day white/black wire like that in the ignition. Those splice connectors and the 2 plug type ones are definitely not factory. Car manufacturers don't use connectors like that

Terran · 10-10-2016, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz

The internet tells me that Toyota commonly uses orange wires for illumination circuits.

Do all your dash/interior lights work .. ??

humfrz

Yep, they all work.

Terran · 10-10-2016, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

It is common for dealerships to add simple anti-theft devices to new cars in their stock.

If the customer opts to not pay for the device the service techs within the service dept. can disarm/disconnect the device.

A little black box under the steering wheel certainly sounds like it could be such a device.

Those connectors (small orange and yellow wires) are definitely not items the manufacturer would use in wiring/assembly of a new vehicle. Tapping into the large white with black tracer wire is also not factory.

You have not stated what you think that 4-pin connector is for, and if it is plugged into the car's factory wiring ?

The 4-pin connector was plugged into a 4-pin female end on the circuit board in that area, not really sure what it is exactly. I opted out on the alarm, but I think they did leave it in there, all plugged in. Going to try to go home tonight and pull out the black box to confirm if it is indeed the alarm. Thanks for your help

Terran · 10-10-2016, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Yes, what is that plug go to? There is a day white/black wire like that in the ignition. Those splice connectors and the 2 plug type ones are definitely not factory. Car manufacturers don't use connectors like that

It goes to a female end connector on the circuit board in that area. Seems to make me think it is an aftermarket alarm from the dealer then. I opted out on the alarm when I bought the car, and I believe they did leave it in there. Thanks for your help.

nextcar · 10-10-2016, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terran

It goes to a female end connector on the circuit board in that area. Seems to make me think it is an aftermarket alarm from the dealer then. I opted out on the alarm when I bought the car, and I believe they did leave it in there. Thanks for your help.

Yup... they leave them in if you opt out, and a used car/dealer installed alarm was what immediately came to mind.

I HATE these things... they are a total sham and wrong on so many levels:

1) They hack into the factory harnesses and reduce reliability
2) They are TERRIBLE alarms and are used for two fraudulent purposes:

To lower the dealership insurance premium - the dealership can claim there is an anti-theft device on his inventory- even the most casual thief can defeat these.
To rip off the consumer - the dealer will charge 100s of dollars for an alarm so cheap he would rather deactivate it than remove it

holly01 · 10-13-2016, 04:07 PM

interesting thread, I too was having the same problem

10-09-2016, 07:08 PM	#1
Terran Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: Raven FR-S 6MT Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 434 Thanks: 234 Thanked 251 Times in 122 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Help with loose wiring Anyone know what these two orange wires are that got disconnected from this harness? The orange wires go to a little black box under the steering wheel. The photos are with the driver side panel taken off. __________________ =BUILD THREAD= Last edited by Terran; 10-09-2016 at 09:22 PM.

10-09-2016, 08:01 PM	#2
nextcar Guilt free parts vulture! Join Date: Jul 2016 Drives: 2013 FR-S - Asphalt 6MT Location: San Diego Posts: 1,676 Thanks: 496 Thanked 1,764 Times in 934 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That does not look like factory wiring to me... Note that the wires do not appear to go into a harness. So, was this a used car? Did a dealer install an aftermarket alarm system to lower their insurance rates? What no longer functions on your car?

10-09-2016, 09:54 PM	#5
Yal #subaruambassador Join Date: Aug 2016 Drives: Wheezy Location: San Jose Posts: 135 Thanks: 10 Thanked 85 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It screams aftermarket or add on to me. I don't think I've ever seen a butt connector in a stock car (auto tech son agrees). __________________

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ToySub1946 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 15FRS, 05MustangGT, 85Toyota truck Location: Eureka, Ca. Posts: 574 Thanks: 672 Thanked 590 Times in 279 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	It is common for dealerships to add simple anti-theft devices to new cars in their stock. If the customer opts to not pay for the device the service techs within the service dept. can disarm/disconnect the device. A little black box under the steering wheel certainly sounds like it could be such a device. Those connectors (small orange and yellow wires) are definitely not items the manufacturer would use in wiring/assembly of a new vehicle. Tapping into the large white with black tracer wire is also not factory. You have not stated what you think that 4-pin connector is for, and if it is plugged into the car's factory wiring ? Last edited by ToySub1946; 10-10-2016 at 12:00 AM.

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