ofh vs gruppe vs 1320 performance vs cnt

[allowe]

Before you say "hit the search button etc", I have. I just want recent opinions on these headers

By the way, I'm getting an oft soon after getting the header

Note: prices are in CAD

OFH is one of the options however, it's the most expensive out of the 4 I have in mind. It looks amazing (the best pug of them all) though and I'm guessing it has the most hp gain out of them all. But doesn't come with gaskets or op (like 150 more for those 2).

Total without op: $977 cad roughly with import charge and shipping

Gruppe s
This header has a lot of good reviews. I mean a lot! I haven't heard anyone complain about them and the collector looks nice! However it's still up there when it comes to the price of it and it doesn't come with op but I think it does come with gaskets.
Total without op: 735 CAD roughly from ft86motorsports. No import charges and free shipping but there is Canadian tax.


1320 performance is by far my favourite out of the 4. I've read a lot of good reviews about but I want to hear about this from you guys the most. Especially those who have owned it for a while. My main concern is, they say that the flex pipe makes noise or leaks. Can anyone confirm this?? This header comes with op and gaskets. I also heard they take a while to ship but I'm not worried about that as it's still cold here in Toronto.

Total: around 650 CAD. Import charges are a freaking nightmare!! Would've been 550 without the import charge.

Cnt header. The cheapest and I've heard decent things about it. I did also hear that they sometimes get surface rust but again, I'm not Guna stare at this header so I don't really care if it looks like crap. Doesn't come with op or gaskets.

Total: $575 CAD roughly making it the cheapest but no op or gaskets which makes it to be the same price at the 1320 if I got an op and gaskets. The import charge is 20 bucks less for some reason but till around 80 bucks.


I'm at a total loss on which one I should get. I really like the 1320 but If it has leaks or a bad flex pipe, it's not worth it. Ofh is too expensive. Gruppe is well made but pricey too. Cnt is cheap but needs gaskets and that will put the price of it really close to the 1320


Ps. I have an mxp sp exhaust (it's...AWESOME!)

Really would love to hear your opinions and experience on those headers.

Thanks for reading my post



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[thecarfilmer]

i had gruppe-s and it was the best bang for my buck. Its pretty much a tomei uel but almost half the price. 1320 is a hit or miss, i know a few people who has it and they all had leaks.

[The Racers Line]

Where could you have possibly read good reviews of the 1320 header? It is easily the biggest piece of garbage on the market for this car. I have removed multiple for customers that rubbed on the subframe, leaked from warped flanges, and fluttered from crap flex joints. Also, the o2 sensor spacer is a joke, and the 90 bend is required so the o2 sensor don't get eaten by the control arm.

OFH or Groupe S. Both will fit well, sound great, and make decent gains.

[ajcarson11]

Gruppe-s. It is literally a copy of the Tomei UEL for less money. It comes with gaskets. Mine has had 0 problems.

It's a bit like the Tein Flex Z coilover. When you realize what you get for the money (quality, design, user feedback) its hard to understand why 95% of people would go with anything else unless they have very specific needs (like race-specific use, unlimited budget, etc).

[Mad1723]

OFH 1st gen here, got it in their first group buy. No regrets on the purchase, install was flawless and it sounds glorious

[sirbobbinhood]

I have the 1320 header and I haven't had a single problem with it besides the install being a bit of a pain to get the inside bolt on the drivers side flange. Everything else is great.
They started using a newer version and that is what I ended up getting. It has larger flex pipes apparently and that helps with the warping they were seeing.
You're gonna have hits and misses with every brand but if you're looking for a good review of 1320 I think my header is great and the company was nice enough to ship it out quick and to send me a newer one too.

EDIT: Forgot to mention I've had it on since last fall and haven't had any problems, I daily it and autocross so it's been through some heat cycles too. No weird noises but I have an N1 catback so I can't hear much besides the exhaust noise anyways.

[allowe]

Originally Posted by The Racers Line

Where could you have possibly read good reviews of the 1320 header? It is easily the biggest piece of garbage on the market for this car. I have removed multiple for customers that rubbed on the subframe, leaked from warped flanges, and fluttered from crap flex joints. Also, the o2 sensor spacer is a joke, and the 90 bend is required so the o2 sensor don't get eaten by the control arm.

OFH or Groupe S. Both will fit well, sound great, and make decent gains.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95068


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[Summerwolf]

It would make sense to buy the newest OFH offering with the overpipe included and the OFT at the same time would it not?


Especially since you can get the tuning specific to that and you get the overpipe.

[allowe]

Originally Posted by ajcarson11

Gruppe-s. It is literally a copy of the Tomei UEL for less money. It comes with gaskets. Mine has had 0 problems.

It's a bit like the Tein Flex Z coilover. When you realize what you get for the money (quality, design, user feedback) its hard to understand why 95% of people would go with anything else unless they have very specific needs (like race-specific use, unlimited budget, etc).

How does it sound? I'm looking for the quietest one too. I know that a catless header will be louder than stock but I don't wana rattle the neighbourhood haha.


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[allowe]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

It would make sense to buy the newest OFH offering with the overpipe included and the OFT at the same time would it not?


Especially since you can get the tuning specific to that and you get the overpipe.

I'm buying the oft used which will save me about 100 CAD. (It's almost 800 with tax brand new in Canada)

That whole package is literally about 1700 cad. Might as well spend a grand more and go For an eBay turbo kit lol.


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[The Racers Line]

Originally Posted by allowe

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95068


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After a skim of that whole 4 page thread, there was 1 guy who purchased one, who then had to return it because the flanges were garbage and it leaked. Hardly good reviews.

"I didn't really run N/A long. I made 179whp with that setup. Sold the header after it had some weird issues.. the flanges weren't decked correctly, causing a leak against the block, and the flexpipe had a hiss/rattle leak."

1320 is local to my shop. Many purchased their header, and then quickly sold them because of issues.

Groupe S are literally Tomei rejects, and they still fit and perform 100% better than the 1320 crap.

[ajcarson11]

Originally Posted by allowe

How does it sound? I'm looking for the quietest one too. I know that a catless header will be louder than stock but I don't wana rattle the neighbourhood haha.


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It will sound exactly like every other UEL catless header. Unless you are going with a catted header, its not going to matter which brand you buy -- Almost all will sound the exact same (unless you buy an expensive one with thicker pipping, which would increase weight, and even that wouldn't sound much different).

But, with that being said, the sound rocks. I'd avoid touching your front pipe unless you want to introduce rasp -- Look at changing the catback/axleback to unlock the rumbles from the header.

[Teseo]

What about JDL, op? They are robust, quality is outstanding, lifetime warranty, fit like oem and have "special tune (patch actually)" with a oft.

[allowe]

Originally Posted by ajcarson11

It will sound exactly like every other UEL catless header. Unless you are going with a catted header, its not going to matter which brand you buy -- Almost all will sound the exact same (unless you buy an expensive one with thicker pipping, which would increase weight, and even that wouldn't sound much different).



But, with that being said, the sound rocks. I'd avoid touching your front pipe unless you want to introduce rasp -- Look at changing the catback/axleback to unlock the rumbles from the header.

Thanks for ur reply bro! I'm not Guna change the op or have any plans todo so. I don't want my car to smell. I also don't want a ticket too lol. i figured it's Guna sound the same as the other catless uel headers too. Thanks for ur input


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