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05-13-2014, 04:01 PM | #15 |
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I honestly don't need coilovers, aside from the coolness aspect. I was just curious, because I've seen good namebrands go without top mounts, and I know most people consider the OEM top mounts to be a little fluffy.
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About how much track seat time would you recommend be done on stock suspension before deciding on how exactly (if any) the stock suspension should be modified? Or should that also wait until one has gone to one's desired aftermarket tires and wheels and then deciding where to take the suspension (if anywhere beyond stock)? (btw, just signed up with NASA. going to be registering soon for my first track day HPDE... FINALLY)
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The problem is, with an inexperienced driver, the setup/preference part is not there, so you need someone to set the car up FOR you. Power is always recommended against for novices, as you don't want to have that to lean on as a crutch. |
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As far as power, I've gone with engine back exhaust and tune, and that's where I'm staying for the time being for that exact reason.
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Meaning? Springs don't really affect ride comfort on uneven (read: street) surfaces?
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Ride comfort comes from proper valving. Increasing spring rate increases slight roll resistance and also increases weight transfer response. Of all the Spec-R setups I've driven on multiple platforms, they appear to make the car ride a little smoother. The obvious downside to lowering springs in general is decreased suspension travel hence why the Spec-R springs have a minor drop as opposed to other kits on the market. Setup is all about balance.
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Alignment (including hardware) Wheels & tires Brakes ^ All at once if possible. It's a broader concept of 'suspension' but IMHO you need to consider how everything on the chassis works together when it comes to effective track setup. If you don't have somebody to set up your dampers for you I'd go with the single adjustable Ohlins given your budget. Not much point in multi adjustable coil overs if you don't know how to set them up. If you have somebody to set the dampers up for you then Bob's your uncle. KWs, Teins, JRZs, whatever. . I mention tires because there's a pretty big difference between the OEM rubber, extreme performance rubber and the semis licks/slicks that some folks like to run. Brake upgrades for safety and consistency, plus if you're going to go with a BBK it might influence your wheel & rubber choices. Alignment is pretty easy to figure out once everything else is dialed in. Generally speaking, quality parts and fewer variables = less head scratching and more time spent focusing on driving technique. IMO.
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With data like that no doubt that somebody like the CSG guys can cook you up a really focused and effective damper and alignment setup. If you're going to the extent of roll bars, harnesses and race seats and will be running a BBK with R comps I'm thinking that something really focused such as CSG-fied JRZs would be right up your alley.
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