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Old 02-24-2020, 09:30 PM   #29
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Don't you want to wait for just a few more months, though? Details of the new model should start to emerge near the end of the year and apparently it will be available in mid-2021 as a 2022 model...I think!
2022MY = 1st year = problems

Why not wait for a 2023/2024/2025MY to have more colors and special editions to choose from?
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Yep, well done. We don’t get that limited edition down here, looks great. So does that mean you’re going to write up a ‘14 vs ‘20 comparo?
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Yep, well done. We don’t get that limited edition down here, looks great. So does that mean you’re going to write up a ‘14 vs ‘20 comparo?
Jeez, are you some kinda of pain freak?? Don't encourage such behaviour.. We'll end up with spins on the ole favourites but with 'green' thrown in..
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Those rims look mint, you got any specs on them?, and the color is really nice.

IIRC you had a catback you liked on your Lava, you keeping that for the Hokone, or.......?

To be honest, that little green pup looks way better than any of the other TS or STI cars with lips and body kits with stupid boy racer wings.

Well done old boy!

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Those rims look mint, you got any specs on them?, and the color is really nice.

IIRC you had a catback you liked on your Lava, you keeping that for the Hokone, or.......?

To be honest, that little green pup looks way better than any of the other TS or STI cars with lips and body kits with stupid boy racer wings.

Well done old boy!

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The interior doesn’t look bad either, yeah definitely a good pick for a limited edition.

https://www.caradvice.com.au/752123/...akone-edition/
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Jeez, are you some kinda of pain freak?? Don't encourage such behaviour.. We'll end up with spins on the ole favourites but with 'green' thrown in..

Or when the gen 2 comes out: Mega comparo, gen 1.0 vs gen 1.1 vs 2.0.

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The interior doesn’t look bad either, yeah definitely a good pick for a limited edition.

https://www.caradvice.com.au/752123/...akone-edition/
I would like the seats for my little girl.
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you need to start checking some of the threads tcoat didn't make a move until he started getting wind of implied details
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I had my own suspicions as to where things were headed but when @ichitaka05 interviewed Tada and came here and stated "If you have a first Gen keep it. If you don't then buy one now" that clinched it for me. He obviously knows more than he can say and I respect his silence but that statement is ominous. It could just be confirmation bias on my part since his comments support my prior thoughts on what was coming but I decided to stay with a new first gen based on it.


There are actually two ways I see this car going and neither one looks good to me and my desires.


If ichi and I am right (through my earlier thoughts and his implied statements) then it will be a higher volume car built for mass public appeal. I do not want a glorified two door Corolla with god only knows what powering it.


If the rest of the internet is right (I have about a 1% level of belief they are) then the next gen will be a high HP turbo, Mustang killer with all the changes to the platform it takes to support that. There are already plenty of cars out there that meet that description and I didn't buy any of them so why would It suddenly be what I want?


I bought the FRS in the first place because it was the ONLY car on the market checked all my boxes. It is an inexpensive, fuel efficient, RWD, NA, hard topped car with 4 seats and that is hard to come by. If they deviate from this combination at all then it no longer checks all the boxes. There are other cars that I would consider better at many of the individual aspects so if looking at just one part of the equation instead of the whole package there are better choices.


I love the current gen since it is a relatively unique little car that is right at home in my daily highway commute but still has the ability to be wrung out when the limited opportunity arises. I have had my share of high HP and turboed cars in the past and no matter what anybody says you sacrifice some things that make a great DD to have that power that you (or at least I) can only use for maybe 2% of your driving time.


Having the current gen power is like having a really hot looking mistress that is subdued and undemanding during the day but can easily turn into a passionate and exciting lover with just a slight change in how you handle her.
A much more powerful version is like having that gorgeous girl that everybody lusts after but she is a psycho bitch that spends all your money and if you do even the slightest thing wrong she try's to kill you or have you arrested. Fine for a weekend but you don't want to live with her all the time.





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2022MY = 1st year = problems

Why not wait for a 2023/2024/2025MY to have more colors and special editions to choose from?

Annnnnd this^


The first release track record for both Toyota and Subaru have not been stellar over the last few years. The shopping list of issues with the early 13s, the Supra power change debacle and the 6 recalls in the first year of my wife's new platform 2017 Impreza all have me gun shy of a first MY release. If the Second Gen doesn't match ichi's nor the internet's predictions and is spectacular then I still do not want to be a first adaptor. I will leave that up to others and patently wait until my all the bugs are worked out 2020 is 4 or 5 years old before jumping on the bandwagon.
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Those rims look mint, you got any specs on them?, and the color is really nice.
They are "mint" they are brand new. The specs are exactly the same as any stock 17" 86/BRZ wheel. The only difference is the bronze colour.
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IIRC you had a catback you liked on your Lava, you keeping that for the Hokone, or.......?





No. Sounds silly but those parts go with that car. New car will get new parts.
I am actually going to practice what I preach and drive it stock for a while before deciding what exactly I want to do (if anything at all)


If I decide to lower again I will do it on adjustable coil overs. This will let me drop quite a bit for summer and raise it up again for winter. Can't do that on lowering springs. Well not easily at any rate.
I LOVE the TRD exhaust but would still like to change it up a bit so am considering the Perrin


I have been window shopping and if (who am kidding. when) I decide to change I will most likely go with the CSG Tein Flex A coil overs and Perrin exhaust from Counter Space Garage since they are an active vender on here and I trust their support. That is if @CSG Mike can figure out how to get the stuff to me without my having to sell the car to afford it!
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You could buy my Lava! I will sell it to you dirt cheap right now.
Man, that would be so tempting!
Unfortunately, I think I'll need to wait a couple more years (wife has a 2nd baby on the way) - once the little ones are able to climb into the backseats themselves, I think I'll get back into an 86 (probably gonna look for a 2013).

That's why something like an Altezza would be a perfect fit for me... Alas, no one wants to make a small displacement, small RWD 4-door...
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That is if @CSG Mike can figure out how to get the stuff to me without my having to sell the car to afford it!
If they do free shipping to the continental US, then try CBI USA - they have PO boxes, and are located at Niagara Falls.
Costs about $6USD to pick up each package (or each tire).

I've picked up parts there before, and its always been painless.
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I can get it Shipped to @Ultramaroon and he can bring it in his pocket when he comes and visits in June
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