FR-S v.s. BRZ

[Spaceywilly]

Originally Posted by FR-S Dan

I meant cost-wise $$$

Cost wise? I think buying a bumper from the local Scion dealer is going to be A LOT cheaper than importing EDM HIDs from a GT86. $300 for the bumper vs. $1500+ for the HIDs. Even if you just get BRZ headlights for an FR-S that will be probably be at least $1000.

[VADER]

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

Cost wise? I think buying a bumper from the local Scion dealer is going to be A LOT cheaper than importing EDM HIDs from a GT86. $300 for the bumper vs. $1500+ for the HIDs. Even if you just get BRZ headlights for an FR-S that will be probably be at least $1000.

Actually, $125 not $1,500

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6189

[Subie]

Originally Posted by FR-S Dan

Actually, $125 not $1,500

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6189

If you think a $125 PnP kit is the same as factory HIDs you're terribly mistaken. Your other posts contain similar fallacies.

[VADER]

Just going off what I see in the forum. I don't know the difference between PnP and whatever else is out there. This is my first new car. I've only owned 3 in the past and they were 90's cars. I do not claim to be any type of car expert. Just repeating what I've been told, what I've seen, and what I've thus far learned. Thank you.

[Damnquick]

Just going off what I see in the forum. I don't know the difference between PnP and whatever else is out there. This is my first new car. I've only owned 3 in the past and they were 90's cars. I do not claim to be any type of car expert. Just repeating what I've been told, what I've seen, and what I've thus far learned. Thank you.

Quick tip.. Do your own research before you regurgitate someones crap ideas.
Non HID housing do not work like HID housings. Period.

The cutoff is wrong and can blind other drivers. If you don't know what I'm talking about then google it and learn more. Furthermore aftermarket HID setups can melt or discolor halogen housings. Lol and forget quality control a $125 kit compared to a factory setup is like a Bentley to a Kia.

It seems like you just want the FRS to be better than the BRZ and aren't really looking at this objectively. It's a cheaper version of the Toyota 86
just like the BRZ Premium. They cost less for a reason.

If you want as close to a clone of the JDM Toyota 86 GT Limited guess what you have to buy...that's right the BRZ Limited.

If you want a stripped down model buy the FRS or BRZ Premium. It's as simple as that. Don't use some BS weight issue or think you can just swap in a factory HID system to make the FRS a "better buy"

What's your major goal anyway. No offense but you don't seem very knowledgeable about these vehicles.

I like a number of guys on here have built full custom drift and drag cars.
Hell I still have my first '86 that I stroked, boosted and caged. So think about what you want to do with a new car that you'll be paying for most likely the next 60months.

$25k is alot of money to pay for a half assed project attempt. As it is I know these cars will be assaulted by all the fan boys, and stance losers that just have to get the new "86"

If you belong in any of those categories then do me a favor and commit to the FRS so the resale on my future BRZ stays higher. Maybe I'll buy a used FRS next year for cheap after all the fanboys toss 'em in ditches trying to gutter drop like Takumi......

[Spaceywilly]

Originally Posted by Damnquick

Quick tip.. Do your own research before you regurgitate someones crap ideas.
Non HID housing do not work like HID housings. Period.

The cutoff is wrong and can blind other drivers. If you don't know what I'm talking about then google it and learn more.

You don't have to google anything, I'm sure we've all seen the bright blue headlights coming in the opposite lane, usually flickering because they weren't wired properly. That is what you get when you go the $125 route instead of taking the time to do it right. I would hate for the FR-S to become "that" car, but it seems like a lot of people are already looking to do the bulb swap

[chulooz]

Originally Posted by FR-S Dan

Stereotypical jerk. Your true colors have finally came out, you just don't like Scion. That's fine with me. Thanks for confirming my assumptions.

I dont think youve noticed how politely Ive addressed your stupid comments, Ill step away from trend that now.

I dont 'just not like scion', I just dont like you. You lack the knowledge and respect to be a constructive part of this community. PM me when you are in Derby, Connecticut Id like to physically meet you.

[VADER]

Originally Posted by chulooz

I dont think youve noticed how politely Ive addressed your stupid comments, Ill step away from trend that now.

I dont 'just not like scion', I just dont like you. You lack the knowledge and respect to be a constructive part of this community. PM me when you are in Derby, Connecticut Id like to physically meet you.

Wow, what a big man you are threatening me like a child. Get a life and get over yourself.

[AX_FRS]

This thread becomes more useless by the day.

[WhiteGDB]

Originally Posted by FR-S Dan

My Reasons for choosing the FR-S:

- Front bumper looks much better.
- Turning signal is seperate rather than inside the actual headlight.
- Toyota is the company who made the AE86 so I'm confused as to why Subaru are part of it in a way.
- Nav system on BRZ sucks, and I can just simply use my phone's nav app. BeSpoke is better with HD radio.
- Toyota post-purchase repairs and check-ups are better than Subaru. (ToyotaCare)
- The FR-S has pure pricing and they don't slap a $5,000 markup just because they can.
- Scion corporate throws release parties for the First 86. Subaru does not.
- FR-S will have a bigger and better variety of accessories both OEM and JDM.

That's just a few reasons off the top of my head..

Yes they can and have. Looks like a lot of non first 86 car are currently being markup as high as $7000. Pure pricing is Scion's term for no haggling and has nothing to do with MSRP.

[SmartedPanda]

Which aftermarket parts are cheaper or more expensive in general for each brand? Subaru vs Toyota.
I know most parts, or almost all parts are interchangeable, but in a pinch one might a certain part earlier then the next, and I might not be willing to eat the cost, and just wait.

Just wondering. Only owned Toyotas, never touched a Subaru

[chulooz]

I cant think of any aftermarket parts that wont cross both models aside from cosmetics... they will be comparable, but I expect to see more coming from Subaru interested companies.

[HotLeopardMama]

Originally Posted by WhiteGDB

Yes they can and have. Looks like a lot of non first 86 car are currently being markup as high as $7000. Pure pricing is Scion's term for no haggling and has nothing to do with MSRP.

...I don't think it's in the form of just a straight markup--HOWEVER... some Toyota/Scion dealers are adding $995 window tinting, $995 Thermoguard, different rims, overpriced LoJack, overpriced alarms... etc, etc, etc.

I think I got pretty luck with mine. Just a bumper protector and floor mats from what I can tell anyway.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by HotLeopardMama

..... think I got pretty luck with mine. Just a bumper protector and floor mats from what I can tell anyway.

Did they charge you for the floor mats? If so, you may want to go back and point out to them those were standard equipment.