Anyone else a little excited for the HKS Turbo kit?

[mrg666]

Originally Posted by stevo_12v

https://www.facebook.com/EvolutionRm...86466408045470
Update from the workshop where my car is.
This blue car isn't mine...
Looks promising, 360ish rwhp @ 6psi on PUMP GAS
Car is pretty much stock, except HKS turbo kit, Invidia CBE. Front pipe and overpipe I believe are custom fabricated parts to suit for the kit.

Stock base line dyno figures on that dyno is 130rwhp btw

360 whp at 6 psi does not sound right. You are either getting the power in kW instead of HP (which converts to 268 HP) or giving the boost number wrong.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by mrg666

360 whp at 6 psi does not sound right. You are either getting the power in kW instead of HP (which converts to 268 HP) or giving the boost number wrong.

Eehhhhh, no you got that backwards

362Kilowatts =
485.45Horsepower

Either way the boost pressure does not show how much airflow you get at that pressure. As turbos get better and better over the years they can support more and more power on a give boost pressure. '6 PSI' never tells the whole story.

[mrg666]

I was trying to figure out what error was done if there was an error in conversion. 268 HP with a wrong conversion comes to a very typical number. I suspect 130 HP stock power number above should be a conversion error as well. Sure, you can use a big turbo and get more power at 6 psi. Is HKS turbocharger such a special kind? It looks just like the others in the pictures.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by mrg666

I was trying to figure out what error was done if there was an error in conversion. 268 HP with a wrong conversion comes to a very typical number. I suspect 130 HP stock power number above should be a conversion error as well. Sure, you can use a big turbo and get more power at 6 psi. Is HKS turbocharger such a special kind? It looks just like the others in the pictures.

Hard to tell without seeing the full compressor blade and turbine really.
The other possibility is that the dyno is one of those that estimates crank HP by measuring drivetrain drag on the overrun. That number can easily get fudged then by hanging on the throttle a bit.

[86p0wa]

I would venture a guess at around 315 @6 psi on pump gas.

Now I’ll go get the popcorn

[mrg666]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Hard to tell without seeing the full compressor blade and turbine really.
The other possibility is that the dyno is one of those that estimates crank HP by measuring drivetrain drag on the overrun. That number can easily get fudged then by hanging on the throttle a bit.

OK, I give up. It is what it is.

[gtengr]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Either way the boost pressure does not show how much airflow you get at that pressure. As turbos get better and better over the years they can support more and more power on a give boost pressure. '6 PSI' never tells the whole story.

That said, there's no way he's making a legit 360 rwhp at 6 psi on pump gas.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by gtengr

That said, there's no way he's making a legit 360 rwhp at 6 psi on pump gas.

I agree, it's unlikely.

[Mad_Infinity]

Anyone get/install/dyno it yet? Want to see some real world results.

[Grady]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

I agree, it's unlikely.

I would say it is impossible!

6psi is 6psi no matter what turbo you put on it. You will have to improve the airflow after the MAP sensor to make more HP. The more effecent turbos and intercoolers keep the IAT down. That is how they make more HP.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Grady

I would say it is impossible!

6psi is 6psi no matter what turbo you put on it. You will have to improve the airflow after the MAP sensor to make more HP. The more effecent turbos and intercoolers keep the IAT down. That is how they make more HP.

So a small turbo at 6psi will make the same power as a large turbo at 6psi? No. Psi is a measure of resistance not air flow.

[Trueweltall]

Originally Posted by 86p0wa

I would venture a guess at around 315 @6 psi on pump gas.

Now I’ll go get the popcorn

No way, I am going to take a guess and say it'll hit 230-250 at the wheels if that.

[Grady]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

So a small turbo at 6psi will make the same power as a large turbo at 6psi? No. Psi is a measure of resistance not air flow.

Yes but the resistance is the engine. After the turbo.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Grady

I would say it is impossible!

6psi is 6psi no matter what turbo you put on it. You will have to improve the airflow after the MAP sensor to make more HP. The more effecent turbos and intercoolers keep the IAT down. That is how they make more HP.

6 psi is 6 psi no matter what turbo you put on it....

Jfc. False.