Intake Shootout! Injen vs AFE vs AVO vs AiRaid vs STOCK! - Page 8 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

2forme · 10-11-2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TAP Auto

Serious gnomes man - I hear you. I will say you have been awesome for putting in all the work/time to test these things and keeping it cool.

That's what we are all here for.

Bitching and moaning doesn't actually do anything to help rectify the issue at hand. If I have the means to help accomplish something, then I'll gladly help out.

JPxM0Dz · 10-11-2012, 04:57 PM

^^^Post count

WolfsFang · 10-11-2012, 04:59 PM

So the intake that gives the most power atm that is out is a INJEN?

2forme · 10-11-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfsFang

So the intake that gives the most power atm that is out is a INJEN?

According to these dynos yes, but some of us (myself included) are seriously questioning if the gains shown would happen under real world use. I really doubt it.

uspspro · 10-11-2012, 05:11 PM

Also, it seems most of the gains come from leaning the AFR. Not going to get these gains if you already have a good tune.

FantomRider · 10-11-2012, 07:52 PM

Glad Injen makes some power. I got Injen intake since it released. I been running with it 3k+ miles already. Sound great, no issue. I didn't reset my ECU yet, do I have to reset it?

Ravenlokk · 10-11-2012, 11:40 PM

Intakes are mostly looks, and sound. If you're getting intake to be a power booster you're doing it wrong. The gains will be marginal for all the intakes, they're all a pretty poor power/cost ratio... It's still one of the first things i'll do though, because i love being able to hear the intake charge, and i like the look

. And they're really not all that expensive as an early mod.

chulooz · 10-12-2012, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TyperRspec789

So.... When is a company going to come out and make an aftermarket snorkel that is larger and more efficient than the stocker? Almost seems like common sense, it would convert all the intakes into cold air intakes...

syms.

that intake hasn't been tested yet, i don't even know if its on the market. I can tell ya one thing though, the CF isnt for the misers.

rave-the-dave · 10-12-2012, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 2forme

That's what we are all here for.

Bitching and moaning doesn't actually do anything to help rectify the issue at hand. If I have the means to help accomplish something, then I'll gladly help out.

It's those goddamn underpants gnomes every time !

But in all seriousness, seems there's still a bit of work to be done intake mod wise. I'm gonna hold off till spring methinks and get a tune at the same time.

Jordo! · 10-12-2012, 06:28 AM

Without a tune to correct, varying the position of the MAF sensor will have a HUGE impact on performance (as will any variation to tube diameter) that has nothing to do with actual flow changes.

Would be interesting to re-evaluate after a tune to optimize performance on each.

2forme · 10-12-2012, 04:01 PM

BTW, I just finished my temperature testing.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=41

This right here proves my point about the open hood dynoing not directly reflecting real world performance differences. Look at the graphs to see the temperature differences between the aFe and AIRAID. The Injen itself would run even warmer than the AIRAID due to the design.

jeebus · 10-12-2012, 05:55 PM

Best intake mod

Bu-Tang · 10-12-2012, 06:18 PM

Yea after all this intake talk, im thinking to myself, I will need none of these intakes with a turbo LOL

xwd · 10-12-2012, 06:32 PM

From the AFR graphs it's obvious the power or lack thereof is mainly due to the mixture either being leaned out or running too rich. Injen runs especially lean compared to the stock tune so it's no wonder it made so much power.

The issue is when someone tunes the car and corrects that behavior it's no longer going to make as much power, and that's what we've seen pretty consistently.

10-11-2012, 04:59 PM	#101
WolfsFang Scrape Master Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Goal: Oldest FRS State Side Location: North NJ Posts: 1,161 Thanks: 238 Thanked 412 Times in 238 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So the intake that gives the most power atm that is out is a INJEN? __________________ You do realize comparing the BRZ to the FR-S is like comparing which hand you love masterbating too right?

10-11-2012, 07:52 PM	#104
FantomRider White Fantom Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Whiteout FR-S Location: TN Posts: 46 Thanks: 4 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Glad Injen makes some power. I got Injen intake since it released. I been running with it 3k+ miles already. Sound great, no issue. I didn't reset my ECU yet, do I have to reset it? __________________ Eibach Prokit Lower Springs Injen Intake Xenon 6000k HID Beat-Sonic Shark Fin Greddy Evo3 Catback

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xwd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 DGM Subaru BRZ (Subie #9) Location: ATL, US Posts: 2,667 Thanks: 123 Thanked 860 Times in 552 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	From the AFR graphs it's obvious the power or lack thereof is mainly due to the mixture either being leaned out or running too rich. Injen runs especially lean compared to the stock tune so it's no wonder it made so much power. The issue is when someone tunes the car and corrects that behavior it's no longer going to make as much power, and that's what we've seen pretty consistently.

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