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Old 09-23-2018, 01:40 PM   #15
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Over so many years, it would appear this is the first complete answer to a reasonable PCD upgrade, THANKS! Have had my eye on a set of wheels that are only available in the 5x114.

One question please, sounds like if we buy the 4 hubs and the 4 rotors in the parts specified the change is straightforward. Are there any other parts required, and do the ABS rings and sensor cables fit right up?
The parts list and links posted above are the exact items needed. All hardware and sensors are reused. And is retained.

This is a direct changeover with no ill effects or fitment issue.
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I wonder if the Stoptech BBK front hats are big enough to fit the front hubs, then either re-drill them or get a same size Subaru but with 5x114 pattern.
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So in the rear the stock rotor fits over the new hub and we can just redrill the stock rotor?
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So in the rear the stock rotor fits over the new hub and we can just redrill the stock rotor?


You could use the rotor you already have with the PBM drill guide. Absolutely. The subject car here has about 65k miles and was on the original rotors so we swapped em out.
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Alright thank you very much!! Very glad you made this post
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Ok. So my note is a little funky. To attempt to clarify; the 4/2 wrx brakes use the same size rotors as a stock 86. So, you can hang that 4 piston/2 piston caliper without changing front or rear rotors. In the rear you would need a KNS v2 bracket to fit the 2 piston caliper. I had this same setup on the grey car (car on the left in first pic) before going to brembos. When I went to brembos I put my FHI calipers in an RSTi and then my brackets and another set of calipers onto Senpai here. Stock rotors were always used.

USING THE PARTS LIST I HAVE HERE YOU WILL ABSOLUTELY BE ABLE TO GO TO 5x114 WITH STOCK CALIPERS.

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Thank you for the clarification .Kyle

If anyone is still confused...

YOU CAN STILL USE THE ORIGINAL STOCK OEM CALIPERS WITH THIS 5X114.3 BOLT PATTERN UPGRADE.


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This sucked to find out after buying everything but you cannot use the stock calipers with the rotors described. The issue is the rotor is now to wide and binds against the circled part in my picture of the caliper. Currently grinding down the part of the caliper to make clearance for now but will likely have to find a caliper to upgrade to as I am not sure how structurally safe me grinding this part away Thought I better submit this so anyone seeing this does not make the same mistake I made.
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This sucked to find out after buying everything but you cannot use the stock calipers with the rotors described. The issue is the rotor is now to wide and binds against the circled part in my picture of the caliper. Currently grinding down the part of the caliper to make clearance for now but will likely have to find a caliper to upgrade to as I am not sure how structurally safe me grinding this part away Thought I better submit this so anyone seeing this does not make the same mistake I made.

well shit. I guess my base circle measurements didn't factor for the uneven curvature of the pad bracket. Realistically the solution is exactly what you did in clearancing it but that doesn't change that my statement is wrong. Can you take photos of how much you had to remove to make it work and I will amend the write up.
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Do you have a picture showing the 4 nuts holding the rear hub? You mention removing them from the rear but don't show it. I need to change my hub bearings and am apprehensive about trying this in my driveway. Some good pics would definitely help. Thanks.
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Did some searching and was trying to find our stock size rotor in 5x114, seems to be that they only come in that size for other Subaru models which are 5x100

Any other rotors that you might know of that are not too wide?
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well shit. I guess my base circle measurements didn't factor for the uneven curvature of the pad bracket. Realistically the solution is exactly what you did in clearancing it but that doesn't change that my statement is wrong. Can you take photos of how much you had to remove to make it work and I will amend the write up.
So basically in the middle of the circle I made in the one picture originally is about 14-15mm thick. By the time I got it to fit and spin freely (even slid a piece of paper to make sure there was clearance lol) it's now about 9mm. Not sure how structurally sound that is but still seems like a decent amount of material there. Hopefully this helps someone.
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Do you have a picture showing the 4 nuts holding the rear hub? You mention removing them from the rear but don't show it. I need to change my hub bearings and am apprehensive about trying this in my driveway. Some good pics would definitely help. Thanks.
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21563 this thread has a good walk through for the front.
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https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21563 this thread has a good walk through for the front.
There's a rear in there too, thanks. I was wondering where all the rust is though
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There's a rear in there too, thanks. I was wondering where all the rust is though
The guy who made that thread is from Florida. Doubt he even knows what rust is unlike us lol!
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