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I'm definitely getting one | 32 | 12.17% | |
I might get one if they offer a MT | 100 | 38.02% | |
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02-15-2020, 01:31 AM | #2045 |
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4 banger Supra at 317xish lbs https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...a-photos-info/ 430hp race spec at 297xish lbs https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...-on-sale-date/ |
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Let me break down my post for you, then: 1. What I mean by standalone car is that the 86 is an entirely new model, not really having any previous generations. Yes, it takes its name from the AE86, but you know full well it's not just based on that car alone. The Supra has had four prior generations, all mainly Toyota, and is obviously well established due to the popularity of the MKIV. I don't think it's out of reason to at least expect Toyota to do a great deal of the development. 2. You do realize I acknowledged that, right? In fact, you've just reinforced my argument: that's exactly why I called the 86 more of a Toyota than the Supra; because from what I can see, Toyota put forth more effort in bringing the 86 to the market. I'm convinced that Subaru would never have produced the RWD BRZ coupe without Toyota; I'm not so convinced that BMW would have done the same with the Z4 without Toyota, despite previous poor sales. BMW can say anything they want - but companies say a lot of things. 3. So what exactly is your point here? This doesn't address any argument I've made so far. 4. This doesn't change the fact that this is still mainly a BMW vehicle. And again, what the hell are you going on about? I've not made any mention of the interior, which in my opinion isn't bad save for the dumbass iPad screen trend. However, it only reinforces the fact you're really in a BMW. Are you arguing with me at this point, or are you just venting all your anger out on me for shit everybody else has said? 5. Yeah, actually the biggest purists complaining are on Supraforums.com. You know, the ones whose MKIVs are debatably priced and high-valued. You go right ahead and tell them that they can't afford any of the vehicles you just listed (exception being the unattainable by any means Le Mans car). It's not as if pricing the Supra around $80,000-90,000 will somehow deter potential customers, either. Also, brand isn't the same as a whole corporation. The LFA doesn't represent Toyota as a brand. Quote:
Funny you label me as being some kind of F&F fanboy. I enjoy the movies, but that isn't how I learned about the Supra. Let me make a far-out generalization in return - I assume you're a 2020 Supra owner that signed that stupid compensation petition, right? |
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02-15-2020, 11:23 AM | #2047 |
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I've seen one in Atlanta on the road about 5 years ago. Unfortunately didn't snap a photo so no proof.
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Just saw the 2021 in the Blue color at Osaka Automesse. It’s an incredibly beautiful color. Similar to hyper blue but deeper, a bit darker I think, and metallic.
Tbh if I didn’t have a car already I’d totally consider it.
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i can't get over how ugly steel-formed ducktail looks. if they had just flattened the back, it'd be a beautiful rear end...
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Finally saw one in person. Two actually (HKS Prototype) at the Auto Show.
I'll agree with what has been said many times; it does look "better" in person. But still not sure it looks great. |
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I fear the 2.0 Supra will be too expensive for the relative performance, especially next to competitors. 255HP is a very conservative tune, that B48 makes over 300HP stock in the new Mini JCW range. They should turn up the wick and stop playing pattycakes.
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Had a little time waiting to get my rental car for a trip and figured I would sit in one and see how it felt inside. You shall not pass! They have them all locked up and you have to get a salesman to let you in.
I asked why and he look at me scoffingly and said "it is a $60k car." I pointed to the tundra next to it with about the same sticker price and said then why can we sit in that and he said "yeah but that is a $30k truck with options leading up to that price." OK He acted like he didn't want to do it but relented and then as soon as I got out he locked it and walked away. Done. Not so are we looking to drive out with this today...nothing. I'm not a teen so not sure why I was treated like one. I guess Toyota or at least this dealership thinks they have some kind of exotic high end car that mere mortals shouldn't be allowed to sit in and let our skin flakes fall off inside. A test ride, don't be ridiculous...not happening and only the actual buyer gets inside when they are driving off the lot. I made sure to point out how odd that was since all the scratched paint from the dealership washing it with buckets of muddy water really conflicted with their "no open doors and test rides" policy. All 4 of them had more scratches with a mile or two each on the odometers just sitting in a dealer showroom than my 5 yr old car has taken on. There is a used car lot close by that sells a lot of high end cars, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Rolls, mixed in with regular cars. They always have those high dollar ones parked right up front by the building. Off in the middle of the lot though between a Honda whatever and Dodge thatone is a prior Supra owners mistake I guess if I really wanted to test drive it. They still look real good in person for sure though. They better get ready when the Vettes start rolling out though as the "hands off" approach will not sell cars. |
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Guess it is my own fault for dressing like a homeless metal head and not a person in my income range.
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