5x114.3 hub conversion

[mclevin]

Hi all

Sorry disappoint, this is a technical question not a how to.

After any info on how to do this conversion on a fr-s/86. I understand that there are more wheels out there and custom pcds are avail on order. I just want to know if its a viable option.

I have had a brief search but this is limited on my phone so if there is already a tech article please link me, if not I guess this can be it.

Thanks in advance

Chris

[jdmboss86]

greddy is already working on one but we definitely need it

[jamal]

We recently had a thread about it:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8296

It's not going to be an easy or inexpensive process.

[JP]

anyone taken the stock discs off and checked to see how much meat is on the stock hubs, to see if it's possible to just redrill them to 5x114.3 and do the same to the discs...

Otherwise I'm sure there will be kits available using stuff from the subaru/toyota parts bin or stuff like this: http://www.licmotorsports.com/produc...i_lic-03079012

[Skywgn1]

Greddy did do this but has not put it into production due to the lack of requests. I just sent an email to their product request team. If enough people send an email we may have a solution.

greddyusa@greddy.com

[ebphoto]

could always grind down stock studs and use project kics conversion spacers with studs on them.
bulletproof has the 10mm conversion spacers.

i already ordered 5x100 wheels so im just going to stick with them until i get bored and hope there is a full 5x114 conversion setup down the road.

[vividracing]

The problem used to be the front hubs did not fit the 5x114.3 coil overs. So it would mean you needed to find a set or redrilled STi hubs.

You would need:
5x114.3 Hubs (new seals and bearings if used)
5x114.3 Brakes (brake lines, Calipers, Brackets, Rotors)
5x114.3 Axles (ends would be different but not sure on the r200)
5x114.3 Wheels
5x114.3 Coil overs (mount point to hub)

What I recommend is for everyone to hang tight. The wheel companies are playing catch up. Once they do the same wheels in 5x114.3 will be here for the 5x100. The nice part of 5x114.3 is the easier bear change, longer service life and wide wheels. Wide wheels are not going to matter much as there is only so much room for them. And your not making enough power to spin them. Remember light wheels for light power.

[vividracing]

Originally Posted by ebphoto

could always grind down stock studs and use project kics conversion spacers with studs on them.
bulletproof has the 10mm conversion spacers.

i already ordered 5x100 wheels so im just going to stick with them until i get bored and hope there is a full 5x114 conversion setup down the road.

You do not need to grind anything. They make a 5x100 to 5x114.3 spacer already. But the problem is getting a wheel in the large offset to make up for the spacer.

There really is no need for 5x114.3 on these cars.

[jamal]

Originally Posted by vividracing

The nice part of 5x114.3 is the easier bear change

Bolt in bearings all around. All Subarus have had bolt in bearings all around since 08/09.

The rear conversion is probably pretty straightforward. Would just need to re-drill the rotors.

The front, not so much. You can't just take an sti upright/bearing and put it on these cars. Ball joint and abs tone ring are completely different plus an sti hub will get pulled right out of the bearing without an axle bolted through it.

Originally Posted by JP

anyone taken the stock discs off and checked to see how much meat is on the stock hubs, to see if it's possible to just redrill them to 5x114.3 and do the same to the discs...

There's not. It uses front wrx brakes, and wrx rotors won't fit over an sti hub, and a wrx hub doesn't have the room for 5x114.

[Proud of BOXER]

wrx brakes will fit sti hubs.

[vividracing]

Originally Posted by jamal

Bolt in bearings all around. All Subarus have had bolt in bearings all around since 08/09.

The rear conversion is probably pretty straightforward. Would just need to re-drill the rotors.

The front, not so much. You can't just take an sti upright/bearing and put it on these cars. Ball joint and abs tone ring are completely different plus an sti hub will get pulled right out of the bearing without an axle bolted through it.


There's not. It uses front wrx brakes, and wrx rotors won't fit over an sti hub, and a wrx hub doesn't have the room for 5x114.

Ha my personal car I did the swap. But it is pre 07.

The hubs are the same on the FRS, I looked on our shop car and you can slid a axle right in there. So your not going to loose a hub without a axle. They made them just like GMC does on the trucks. 2wd and 4wd use same hubs.

[jamal]

hmmm. Pretty sure the wrx hat is smaller than the sti hub but I could be mistaken. Well, still doubt there's room to re-drill the hub and the front sti hub/bearing won't fit in the brz upright.

[vividracing]

.05 STi 5x100 Front Hub Conversion Kit with Custom Knuckles for WRXs and STis
This upgrade includes 05+ STi hubs that have been machined with a 5x100 bolt pattern as well as knuckles machined to fit WRX and prior year STi struts. This kit will fit STis WRXs (Legacy, RS, and Forester fitment pending). While this kit does not allow users to utilize wide 5x114.3 wheels, it does provide the stronger, bolt on hubs. The kit can also be machined with an offset upright bolt hole to provide additional camber, negating the need for camber plates. We are offering this upgrade as a full kit which includes:

• (2) New 05 STi front knuckles machined to fit WRX and prior STi struts (custom camber settings optional)
• (2) New 05 5x100 STi front hubs/bearings
• (8) New bolts to attach hubs/bearings to knuckle
• (2) New 6 Gun Racing Speedo Gear Adapter Collars
• (10) New OEM lug studs installed in hubs

This is old info and its for subaru wrx to STi swap. I just checked the 6gun kit I have on my own Subaru looks to be rare now days. Didn't know they went under.

[jamal]

Javid's still around, and might still make the parts if you ask. I got a set of tone ring adapters from him not too long ago. Just don't expect a quick turnaround.

LIC does their own conversion uprights now and they are awesome guys so that is the place to get stuff.

But absolutely none of that applies to the FRS.