Getting boosted in a week...what to expect?

[Xxyion]

Hey Guys,

So i ordered my Edelbrock Kit with a Delicious tune which will be installed on the 10th. I'm beyond excited. I've never done modifications to this extent before so part of me is a bit nervous. Just a few questions.

What can i expect? As much as my mind is thinking crazy amount of power and torque everywhere...thats probably not realistic.

What are some supporting mods i should consider? (hood vents, boost gauge...etc.)

I want to keep this as reliable as possible and so any sort of supporting mods that would up the reliability would help.

For those of you on the Edelbrock kit...any major issues i should keep in mind or be aware about? Also what kind of power are you making reliably. I'll be on 91 Octane. Most likley no E85 as it's not in a convenient location for me.

Do you regret your decision at all?

Thanks in advance for the answers and help!

[GsxrMe]

Oil cooler and catch can. I didnt think so but i was creating crack case pressure and creating oil leaks so... ya... oil cooler fixed the issue with timing being pulled when car heated up tomuch.

Clutch, the factory just wont last.

Exhaust that breaths helps the car rev faster.

Motor mounts and transmission mounts made it easier to disengage the clutch. Factory motor mounts and transmission mounts cause a nasty vibration.

Just get ready to spend 10k

[wbradley]

Oil cooler if you track it or illegally drive as if you were tracking it. Not a necessity for a daily driver as much unless you do one pull after the other repeatedly.
Catch can also not a necessity unless tracking. It might collect a few drops of oil here and there.
Next oil change switch to thicker 5W30 for keeping viscosity at higher temps.
If you haven't already upgraded your tires now you will be thinking very seriously about it while spinning in 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
Xxyion, couldn't help but notice you list your colour as WRP. World Rally Poo?

[menikmati]

I'm currently running the Edelbrock kit with a Delicious tune on an otherwise stock car.

No other modifications necessary if the car is driven normally, although I would try to adhere to a shorter OCI (oil change interval).

As far as oil coolers, I'm still waiting for a proven setup that is 100% compatible with the Edelbrock kit before I make the leap. Current oil temps are around 200-210F during my commute.

[GsxrMe]

Oh i used the same 1 as all turbo subis use. Heats up oil quicker when cold and keeps the oil alittle lower as im spanking red light to red light.

Goto the subaru dealer and order all the same hoses and pipes as the factory forester xt uses. Looks like complete stock. Parts guide is on the forums.

5w30 oil is a must

[Tcoat]

You ordered the kit and now are asking what else you need?

[Hugo]

1. Boost/AFR and Oil Pressure Gauge (If you want a third gauge get Oil Temp)
2. 5w30 oil
3. Catch Can
4. Motor/Trans/Diff Mounts (i went with STI mounts as it was stronger then stock but isn't as harsh as perrin or cusco)
5. Clutch (Depending on power levels)
6. Fuel Pump/Injectors (Again, depending on power levels)
7. Oil Cooler (Depending on how you drive)
8. Radiator/upgraded fans (Again, depending on how you drive)

IMO, the first 4 are a must to get you started for FI, and as far as i know, vented hoods isn't as necessary compared to if you went the turbo route, but will be beneficial for your driver and passenger coils regardless. (As demonstrated by Velox)

[GsxrMe]

Originally Posted by Hugo

1. Boost/AFR and Oil Pressure Gauge (If you want a third gauge get Oil Temp)
2. 5w30 oil
3. Catch Can
4. Motor/Trans/Diff Mounts (i went with STI mounts as it was stronger then stock but isn't as harsh as perrin or cusco)
5. Clutch (Depending on power levels)
6. Fuel Pump/Injectors (Again, depending on power levels)
7. Oil Cooler (Depending on how you drive)
8. Radiator/upgraded fans (Again, depending on how you drive)

IMO, the first 4 are a must to get you started for FI, and as far as i know, vented hoods isn't as necessary compared to if you went the turbo route, but will be beneficial for your driver and passenger coils regardless. (As demonstrated by Velox)

I agree with your list. Your better safe than sorry. Don't be cheap and blow you shit up like so.... many do on the forums.

Cusco mounts are rock hard, the engine/transmission has like no movement at all. The idle vibration was noticed after install like instantly. But with the Cusco mounts the car gives a sense of something has been done to the car feeling when someone sits in it for the first time. The turbo with this exhaust is very very stock sounding until I give it a decent amount of pedal.

Again whatever you path is, please don't take the cheap "well maybe next time route". Get a complete list together and do it correctly. Your better spending the extra $200 on an oil cooler than 3k on a short block.

Show me one Turbo Subaru that doesn't have atleast the oil cooler below installed from factory. You wait, you won't find one.! The link is below.

Forester XT Cooler
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50427

I don't recommend the 2 piece barb for the block. JEGS has a 1 piece that doesn't leak. I can provide the PN that I used if PM'd

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by GsxrMe

Show me one Turbo Subaru that doesn't have atleast the oil cooler below installed from factory. You wait, you won't find one.! The link is below.

Any EJ turbo engine, that isn't an STI.

[Xxyion]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

You ordered the kit and now are asking what else you need?

Hahaha sorry I should have stated that I've already done most of my research. Everything listed so far seems to match up with what I've looked at. I do this though on the off chance someone mentions something critical that I overlooked during my many hours of forum browsing. Just my own fail safe.


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[Xxyion]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Xxyion, couldn't help but notice you list your colour as WRP. World Rally Poo?

Hahaha. World Rally Pearl Blue. Is that not correct?




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[Xxyion]

Thanks a lot for the responses guys. The one thing I never thought of was the radiator. Will look into that.


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[johl]

May as well look at the Jackson racing dual radiator and oil cooler

[wbradley]

Unless you are a hardcore racer, radiator is fine. If you are driving in 85 degree weather every day and want to check oil temp and coolant temp, get an ELM 327 BT OBD2 dongle for $20 on Amazon, then download Torque on an Android device. There is an extra step to install oil temp plug-in.
I have monitored temps NA on a track and doing lots of pulls while FI both with and without an oil cooler.
With my setup I made the following observations:
-While NA on the time attack track, it took maybe 5 mins to reach dangerous temp. 125 C/230 F is where most 0W30 thins out.
-FI with oil cooler can go all day no oil temp issues
-FI without oil cooler gerts up to 120 C after several pulls on my drive home from work.
-Coolant has never gotten far above normal range ever.

Conclusion- Oil cooler definitely advisable, but not ESSENTIAL for daily driver. Upgraded radiator not needed. If your hot days are that bad, get a lower temp thermostat. Not Mishimoto, supposedly they are having breakage issues.Catch can highly variable. I collect a few drops every few thousand miles, literally.
Do use thicker oil especially if no oil cooler. I don't recommend the oil warmer/light cooler from Subaru EJ and FA20T engines. It is probably mostly there to heat up the oil quicker for the turbo. Not much cooling effect vs conventional air/liquid heat exchanger.