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2014 86CUP presented by Winmax, rules and schedule
***These rules are based around Buttonwillow 13CW, which is a purpose built testing track in California, that equally rewards balance, power, mechanical grip, and aero grip. 1 point is roughly analogous with 1 second at Buttonwillow 13CW. Multiple cars and drivers were used to compile data, from which this list is derived. ***
**If you believe a value to be incorrect, please provide evidence to back up your claims** *2:05 is the assumed time for a 100% stock car with just 140+TW tires, brake pads, and camber bolts to be equipped* 2014 86CUP presented by Winmax Challenge Rules Rules spreadsheet by @retrosmiths: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...EE&usp=sharing MODIFICATIONS Power, Engine, and Drivetrain □ 0.00 - OEM, unmodified FA20 with ALL factory parts □ 0.25 - Any aftermarket intake system or modification to OEM intake □ 0.125 - Any aftermarket header or turbo manifold/downpipe with a catalytic converter □ 0.25 - Any aftermarket header or turbo manifold/downpipe without a catalytic converter □ 0.125 - High-flow catalytic converter front/mid-pipe □ 0.25 - catless front/mid-pipe □ 0.00 - Cat-back or axle-back exhaust □ 1.00 - Internal engine modifications (head, cams, etc.) □ 2.50 - Any Forced Induction (e.g. AVO, Greddy, Jackson Racing, Innovate, Kraftwerks, Vortech); must take separate penalties for ECU, and header as applicable □ 0.25 - Aftermarket ECU and/or ECU reflash □ 0.50 - E85 tune □ 1.00 - Aftermarket axles □ 1.00 - Aftermarket transmission □ 0.25 - Non-OEM LSD □ 0.00 - Non-OEM Final Drive Wheel and Tires □ -2.00 - Any street tire TW 320+ □ -1.00 - Any street tire TW 220-300 □ 0.00 - Any street tire: TW 140-200 □ 1.25 - Level 1 R-compound tire : NT01, RA1, R888, A048, RC1 □ 2.50 - Level 2 R-compound tire: R6, V700, R1, TD □ 4.00 - Level 3 R-compound tire: V710, A6, C91 □ 0.00 - 215 width tires □ 0.25 - 225 width tires □ 0.50 - 235 width tires □ 0.75 - 245 width tires □ 1.00 - 255+ width tires □ 0.00 - OEM wheels □ 0.00 - Wheel spacers □ 0.125 - 5-7.5" width aftermarket wheels □ 0.25 - 8" width aftermarket wheels □ 0.375 - 8.5" width aftermarket wheels □ 0.5 - 9" width aftermarket wheels □ 0.625 - 9.5" width aftermarket wheels □ 0.75 - 10+" width aftermarket wheels Aerodynamics □ 0.25 - Level 1 Front Aero: aftermarket front bumper or any aftermarket lip (must not have splitter built-in) □ 0.50 - Level 2 Front Aero: full front aero package (anything more than a simple lip or bumper; can include any spats and canards) □ 0.125 - Canard Set (each set L/R, if not combined with L2 Front Aero) □ 0.125 - Spats only (each set L/R, if not combined with L2 Front Aero) □ 0.25 - Level 1 Rear Aero: rear diffuser □ 0.50 - Level 2 Rear Aero: full underbody tray with diffuser □ 0.125 - Vented hood □ 0.125 - Vented fender and/or wide fenders □ 0.125 - Aftermarket or modified/cut rear bumper □ 0.125 - Vortex generators □ 0.25 - Aftermarket rear spoiler (e.g. 5-axis, integrated duckbill in trunk) □ 1.00 - Level 1 Wing: APR GTC-200 (all versions), Voltex 1S wing or smaller, 245mm stands maximum □ 1.50 - Level 2 Wing: Any adjustable wing bigger than APR GTC-200/Voltex 1S □ 0.125 - APR 2.5” Riser (applies only to APR GTC-200) □ 0.125 - 275mm stands (applies to Voltex 1S only) □ 0.125 - Gurney Flap (applies to Level 1 Wing only) Suspension □ 0.00 - Any OEM BRZ or FRS suspension □ 0.50 - Aftermarket springs with OEM shocks □ 1.00 - Aftermarket springs with any off the shelf non-adjustable shock □ 1.50 - Any aftermarket damper with any aftermarket spring, or any coilover suspension □ 0.50 - Any altered suspension mounting points, including offset mounts offset spring perches Free Modifications - any in-cabin safety equipment - any brake pads - any lightweight parts that do not also enhance performance by improving power, aerodynamics, handling, etc.* - any interior removal as long as it does not compromise safety* - any alignment, camber bolt, camber kit, bump steer kit, tie rod end, roll center adjuster, and camber plate. - any bolt-on chassis braces - updating or backdating OEM parts - aftermarket steering wheel: only if R/H/S are installed for driver (otherwise prohibited) - passenger airbag removal: only if passenger seat is removed, or R/H/S are installed for passenger (otherwise prohibited) - aftermarket brake systems, brake ducts - any OEM or aftermarket sway bars - any spacer on aftermarket wheels - OEM rear spoiler - aftermarket flywheel, clutch, pressure-plate - any aftermarket intake filter (filter element ONLY, any piping replacement is an intake) - upgraded valve-springs and retainers - oil-catch can, oil baffle pan - any battery * If you are unsure whether your modification violates these rules, please ask for clarification. If you are found to be in violation after the fact, you will be disqualified from the event. Absolutely Prohibited - nitrous oxide systems - removal of vital safety equipment such as bumper beams, roll-hoops or airbags without R/H/S, etc. 86CUP CLASSES Stock Class - 0.5 points maximum The purpose of this class is to keep costs down and be attractive to a newcomer with a stock or minimally modified FRS or BRZ. Drivers of all experience levels are welcome. Tires are restricted to TW 140+ and no larger than 225 width. Certain modifications are not allowed in Stock class: - No Level 2 Front Aero - No Level 1+ Rear Aero - No Level 1+ Rear Wing - No light-weight aftermarket parts, no aftermarket body panels, or any interior removal (unless necessary for safety equipment). - No forced induction Street Class - 3.5 points maximum The purpose of this class is to allow moderate modifications to a primarily street-driven car. Drivers/owners are allowed flexibility to choose different modifications, while being exposed to an even playing field. 2850 minimum weight with driver and FULL tank of gas Modified – 6.5 points maximum Modified cars are expected to have a myriad of dedicated performance modifications. Cars in this class will typically either have a large amount of power and/or are easily identifiable as a track driven car. 2750 minimum weight with driver and FULL tank of gas. Super Modified - 10 points maximum Minimum weight for Super Modified Class is 2700 pounds with driver. Who knows what you may see in this class... 2014 86CUP Board Members: @CSG Mike @mav1178 @ImperiousRex WEIGHING Rules Each class has a minimum weight: at any point during the day, a competitor with driver inside must meet that minimum weight. If and when a competitor is found to be below minimum weight, he will be penalized 1 second for every 25 pounds he is under the minimum weight. If this is the competitor’s first violation, the first 25 pounds will be allowed as leeway (for possible scale-to-scale variation), but he will be penalized for any further discrepancy. Also, if this is the first violation, he may choose to forfeit all laptimes he has accrued until the weighing process, add back weight to his car to meet minimum weight, and re-start new timed laps instead of taking a lap-time penalty. Any repeat violations will automatically incur the lap time plenty as outlined above. Weighing Protocol One competitor from each group (Street and Modified) will be selected at random to be weighed at any time during the day. The probability of being weighed is directly proportional to the number of points he has accrued throughout the season (for example, this is equivalent to adding one’s name in a hat once for every point he scores, then drawing from that hat at random). That means top drivers have the highest likelihood of being weighed, and drivers who have yet to score points will never be weighed. Weighing Logistics Two drivers from each class may volunteer or will be randomly selected to participate in the weighing process. Only drivers from a different class may weigh one class (to create impartiality). For example, if a Stock class participant is being weighed, only the two drivers from Street and two drivers from Modified may assist in the weighing process. All who participate in the S2KC implicitly agree to help with the weighing process if called upon, barring any extenuating circumstances. PROTEST PROTOCOL A competitor may also be spot-weighed if two peers (or at least half of the participants of that day, whichever is less) from the same class believe the competitor to be in violation of minimum weight. That competitor will be liable to be weighed on the spot. In addition, if a competitor suspects another is underrepresenting his points, he may bring his concern to a member of the 86CUP board immediately, so that a board member can audit the car at that point, and compare the setup to that declared on the signup sheet. If a participant fails the audit, he can choose to: 1) correct the violation and forfeit all a previous laps and redo timed laps for any remaining sessions; or 2) take a 1 second penalty for every 0.25 points he is over the limit. Prizes Prizes at individual events for each class will be awarded regardless of number of competitors in the class. Year-end prize winners need to have participated in atleast 6 events. Sponsors: Title Sponsor: Stock class sponsor: Street class sponsor: Mod class sponsor: Supermod class sponsor: Other sponsors: Last edited by CSG Mike; 12-16-2014 at 02:44 AM. |
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I'm looking for feedback from you guys. Also, any volunteers to be board members for 2014? Proposed schedule: Best 9 of 12 events count 01/18/2014 Streets of Willow CW Saturday 02/16/2014 Big Willow Sunday 02/22/2014 Buttonwillow Raceway 13CW Saturday 04/05/2014 Chuckwalla Raceway CW Saturday 05/10/2014 Streets of Willow CW Saturday 06/22/2014 Big Willow Sunday 07/26/2014 Streets of Willow (Twilight) CCW Saturday 08/30/2014 Buttonwillow Raceway 13 CW Saturday 09/20/2014 Autoclub Speedway (Infield Road Course) Saturday (SubieFest) 10/25/2014 Chuckwalla Raceway CCW Saturday 11/22/2014 Autoclub Speedway (Roval) Saturday 12/13/2014 Streets of Willow CCW Saturday SoWS CW x2 SoWS CCW x2 WSIR x2 BW 13CW x2 CVR CW x1 CVR CCW x1 ACS Infield X1 ACS Roval x1 Scoring: 1st - 10 points 2nd - 7 points 3rd - 5 points 4th - 4 points 5th - 3 points 6th - 2 points 7th+ - 1 point Last edited by CSG Mike; 01-23-2014 at 12:11 AM. |
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Level 1 R-compound tires allowed in street class seems to be too much? just in my opinion tho =/
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255 NT01 on 17x9 RPF1 = 2.75 points Do you think it would be faster than a Greddy Turbo car on 215 RS3 on 17x8 rims? = 3.5 points Or, would it be faster than a car on Tein SRCs, 225 RS3 on 17x9 wheels, intake, header, exhaust, tune, and lip? = 3.5 points The beauty of this system is that it allows for a TON of flexibility with mods, while equalizing the playing field. I've put a pretty good amount of thought into the system. |
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I see, just thought kinda unfair if people just have wider wheel and tires since its already in street class, but anyway good job on the event, will try to attend more next year! =)
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Naturally, not everyone will have a maxed out car for the class they fall into. It's up to the competitor in how much they want to spend to be the most competitive they can be within their class. The CSG BRZ will just be in whatever class it falls into. It won't be build to "max out" any class. @ImperiousRex, coincidentally, has a maxed out Mod class car as it sits now... which is great because his car is a perfect example of what a Mod class car can be. |
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Rules look good to start, and you will learn fast by complaint level about what does not work.
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If someone is claiming a part is overvalued, but they're running under the baseline time of 2:05... well... |
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Excellent rules draft. Seems to provide each driver with a class equal to purpose of car. Personally, I have wanted to keep my car street drive able with some key track minded upgrades. Using these rules, I would be allowed level 1 R compound tires and be maxed out for Street class with 3.5 points. The rules also force smaller drivers to add weight to stay legal or larger drivers to remove weight and stay in class. Great work evening the playing field, in each class.
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I approve of the new rules as well! While the 2013 rules were nice for a beginning season, there was quite a lot of wiggle room that created some harder situations for newer folks coming in to deal with vs. some of the veterans. Hopefully with the new rules we'll get to see how a few different set ups pan out and it will give all of us more data and information on more optimal track setups. Excited!
If anyone has issues with the new rules, you should come out to the track and prove Mike wrong! Or just come out anyways, because the more the merrier!
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question: is it possible that we may have an 86 cup in the east coast area? I know many people who would love to race the ft86 in its own class but california is too far away.
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I'd love to see a nationwide series with a "regional" championship and a "national" championship, but that would require the rules to be equal across the board. If you do use the rules, please give credit for the ruleset! We may also be interested in sponsoring your local series if you can round up a regular group that shows up to the events |
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