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Old 02-20-2016, 06:19 PM   #1
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trading auto FRS for Manual

I made the noob mistake of getting an Automatic FRS and want a Manual now. This was my first car. I think I'm going to trade it in for a Manual FRS maybe even a BRZ soon but want others opinions on if its worth the trade. I want it just because I know it would be more fun and fun to learn. Ive only drove a manual twice and did alright ( they said ) Would a manual feel quicker then auto? Is it really more fun? And would the trade be worth it especially if I plan on aiming for 250whp in the future in this car. All opinions and statements welcome!!!
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I made the noob mistake of getting an Automatic FRS and want a Manual now. This was my first car. I think I'm going to trade it in for a Manual FRS maybe even a BRZ soon but want others opinions on if its worth the trade. I want it just because I know it would be more fun and fun to learn. Ive only drove a manual twice and did alright ( they said ) Would a manual feel quicker then auto? Is it really more fun? And would the trade be worth it especially if I plan on aiming for 250whp in the future in this car. All opinions and statements welcome!!!
If you can afford the depreciation and really want the manual then sure. How it feels and if it's more fun is 100% subjective.

Not sure what you mean by "would the trade be worth it"? It's 100% up to you if it's worth it.
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It doesn't matter which trans you have, it's the driver makes it fast or slow.

What is fun? Cuz I can tell you both AT & MT, you can have fun time. I've seen AT tran FRS having fun going side ways. It's all about what you do with this car.
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Only way that I've had fun in auto is straight line high HP. Other than that I think for this car; manual is the shit. Excluding long commutes in traffic then manual is shit. Naa I'll still take my 6MT
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If it was me, I wouldn't trade just because of the transmission. You would take a big hit and it just doesn't make financial sense. But it is your money and ultimately your decision unless a parent had to help or they would be taking the loss.

I own a manual frs and an automatic DD. I would say I have more fun in the manual but it is purely subjective. My wife hates driving the manual and finds the auto much more enjoyable.
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I want it just because I know it would be more fun and fun to learn. Ive only drove a manual twice and did alright ( they said ) Would a manual feel quicker then auto? Is it really more fun? And would the trade be worth it especially if I plan on aiming for 250whp in the future in this car. All opinions and statements welcome!!!
Seems odd to say "I know it would be more fun" and then ask for opinions. Bummer that the transmission is the defining factor for "fun" in this car for you! If you can eat the cost, go for it.
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Seems odd to say "I know it would be more fun" and then ask for opinions. Bummer that the transmission is the defining factor for "fun" in this car for you! If you can eat the cost, go for it.
The car is already plenty of fun to me. I love the car. I kind of just want a manual to feel more attached to the car I guess. I always here people say manual is the way to go in this car and after driving in my friends manual BRZ I'm considering it.
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Me saying more fun is going solely off what I hear other people say when Auto vs MT comes up
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Kendall. I think you should trade it! Why? Because YOU want to. You're asking to get opinions but you'll always envy those who have the manual. Hey sometimes I wish I had the automatic as well in traffic so at least you have the major positive. But if you don't drive a lot in traffic. It would be a terrific trade.

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The car is already plenty of fun to me. I love the car. I kind of just want a manual to feel more attached to the car I guess. I always here people say manual is the way to go in this car and after driving in my friends manual BRZ I'm considering it.
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Me saying more fun is going solely off what I hear other people say when Auto vs MT comes up
Depends on what you think is fun. Many like the manual and think it is more fun because it is relatively new to them or they feel more engaged. Some are just elitists that feel a sports car "must" have MT to qualify as one. Modern ATs can actually do a better job of shifting at the right time than most people can though. There is no doubt that it is a different experience but not so sure it is any more or less fun.
Would you enjoy a MT more? Maybe but maybe not. Once the novelty wore off you may wish you had the AT back. Don't let what others say influence you on this. If happy with the AT then you could be just throwing money away to change for no good reason.
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I would just keep it. Automatics are cool.
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Clarkson on: manual gearboxes

It’s much better to have a manual when you are driving on a track for fun. Because then you are in charge and you have more control. But at all other times, a car with a manual gearbox is like a television with no remote control. A damn nuisance.

Speed is one thing. A while back, Richard Hammond and I had a bit of a drag race - with police permission, I should add, in case the Daily Mail is reading this - on a Romanian motorway. He was in a Ferrari California with a double-clutch flappy-paddle gearbox. I was in an Aston Martin DBS with manual. Both cars accelerated at exactly the same rate, but every time I changed gear, I would drop back about 10 feet. His changes were seamless. Mine weren’t. Mine couldn’t be.

Oh, I know there will be some snuffly noses and damp handkerchiefs from the purists. But look at it this way: when we are all driving hybrid cars that can find their way around by themselves and sipping fuel in the same way that a vicar sips his tea at an old lady’s funeral, there’s nothing to stop people who crave the past driving a big V8 with a manual ‘box and a longwave radio.
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Depends on what you think is fun. Many like the manual and think it is more fun because it is relatively new to them or they feel more engaged. Some are just elitists that feel a sports car "must" have MT to qualify as one. Modern ATs can actually do a better job of shifting at the right time than most people can though. There is no doubt that it is a different experience but not so sure it is any more or less fun.
Would you enjoy a MT more? Maybe but maybe not. Once the novelty wore off you may wish you had the AT back. Don't let what others say influence you on this. If happy with the AT then you could be just throwing money away to change for no good reason.
You make a very good point. Thank you you've given me more to consider on my decision of if I will trade or not
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