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Are you folks putting back in the factory ducting that needs to be trimmed around the FMIC piping? If you don't you will, literally, lose more than half of your cooling.
Hood vents will also further decrease temps. The CSG BRZ with a C30 HBP never saw oil temps over 255F, in ~115F ambient temps with the factory air guides in place, and Trackspec hood vents. This was a record setting car at the time. |
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I stopped looking at my oil temp gauge because it triggers the warning (set at 265) after 2 laps, it's flashing all the time and I know now it's a false reading. The JRDOC does keep oil temps within 30 degrees of the coolant just like JR states, so given that the car pulled the code when the coolant was 246, following that logic the oil was at 276 or so after lap 5 on a clean track (no traffic). This was with an ambient of 64. I wouldn't dare do that mid-summer at Sebring, even with the heater full blast. I have been told the ECU will pull timing if it detects an unusually high oil temp, that has yet to happen. I have a C38 HBP on E-85. How much cooling capacity will the dedicated track cooler buy me? |
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I can take pictures of my setup, maybe there's another piece of trim I'm missing that is reducing the airflow? Like I said, I trimmed the pieces that go around the piping and replaced the radiator foam with new ones. The undertray is also in place.
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Factory OEM (NA) tunes will drop power once temps climb; aftermarket tunes may or may not. CSG tunes have built-in temp fail safes; if you start nearing unsafe temperatures, the tunes will dramatically drop output to signal that you need to cool down, as well as throw a CEL. |
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You should see no more than 260F on oil, and no more than 210 on coolant, done properly. |
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I have another event at VIR in a few weeks, and will make sure I do some more accurate data logging, but I can say for certain that on the internal gauges on an 18, it never created 230 for Coolant and 270 for Oil. If I don’t crest those clicks, am I in okay shape? These cool down laps are killing me, especially with all the work done to try and cool it down. |
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Swap out the Verus vents for Trackspec. You'll notice a dramatic difference in cooling. |
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Can you break this down a bit more? Is the intention to; A. redirect the air that would make it around the left and right side of the intercooler to the radiator by trimming the factory air guides around the piping and then keeping the upright plastic pieces in place that snug up against the rear side of the intercooler piping? B. Block off the sides entirely so air can only flow through the intercooler -> oil coolers -> radiator? Do you have pictures of this setup? |
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Just against air intake temperature That s why you, me and whoever tune this car need to build custom maps to have timings drop against oil temperature and to blink or flash the CEL |
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For reference, I’m also running Motul 300V 5W30, and Subaru OEM Coolant. I plan on going to Distilled Water and Water Wetter once the temperatures move towards more consistent warm weather. Should I be running a different oil?? Thanks as always! |
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