resale value

[ESC POD]

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

when i bought, i never intended on selling, she will be in my stables for a LONG time

but in all seriousness, the BRZ; less of them being made in the us, higher quality, higher msrp, more options, ect, ect

Exactly...Not getting rid of her...I'm already wanting to buy another one!! Hopefully a PreOwned untouched specimen!

I too believe the BRZ will have a higher resale?? The FRS and BRZ are built to the same standards as they are all built in exact same plant in Gunma, Japan by Subaru, however the lack of availability of the BRZ over the FRS and the "upgraded items" on the BRZ...many will be hunting for one. Just an opinion...

[tripjammer]

Resale will be about the same. Scion resale value is already good. Look up a 2008 scion Xb or tC, these suckers hold their resale value. Look up a 2008 wrx they hold too. Percentages are about the same. Look up a 2008 Nissan 350z or Porsche boxster s, resale value is like half of what you paid for the car. Don't even look at what a 2008 ford mustang is worth...

Figure on the frs and BRZ being worth about $15k to $18k after 5 years with less than 50k miles.

[jmaryt]

yeah! tough part will be keepin' the mileage down! ehe! he! he!

[TSY]

Originally Posted by FRiSson

Too early to say. The BRZ is a bit more limited. But Subaru could go the way of Saab. It is a tough future for smaller car companies. Mazda is in deep trouble already. Both firms make great cars, so has nothing to do with quality.

Umm, Subaru sales are up 25% from last year, and 2011 was a record year for Subaru. Oh yeah, and they've had sales growth for the 3 years before 2011. In this economy, they've actually improved their sales (one of the only companies to do so). So I doubt they're going the way of Saab.

I doubt either of these cars is likely to be a good investment, even if you were to keep one in storage for 30 years. Unless of course people keep crashing them so that in 30 years they become rare.

[FRiSson]

Sales is only a part of the issue. Subaru is going to have to get vastly better fuel economy. It doesn't have the cash to compete with the big players and fuel economy is a real weakness for the firm.

[yormaX]

Resale value will drop overtime when Toyota/Subaru
decides to make a Generation 2 FR-S, BRZ.
Things like tweaks to the engine and a face lift from time to time.

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by TSY

Umm, Subaru sales are up 25% from last year, and 2011 was a record year for Subaru. Oh yeah, and they've had sales growth for the 3 years before 2011. In this economy, they've actually improved their sales (one of the only companies to do so). So I doubt they're going the way of Saab.

subaru is a subsidiary of fuji heavy industries,and is an extremely solvent
company taken as a whole.if subaru was in trouble,daddy will come to the rescue with an infusion of cash to keep 'em propped up!.they have done well over the years,primarily as a result of unique all wheel drive product,and ,of course,the outstanding japanese boxer engine variant!



I doubt either of these cars is likely to be a good investment, even if you were to keep one in storage for 30 years. Unless of course people keep crashing them so that in 30 years they become rare.

i agree! cars are notoriously "poor" investments. as a "depreciating" asset,keeping "resale" value as high as possible is,indeed,a "noble" pursuit!

Originally Posted by FRiSson

Sales is only a part of the issue. Subaru is going to have to get vastly better fuel economy. It doesn't have the cash to compete with the big players and fuel economy is a real weakness for the firm.

all cars are going to have to get better fuel economy,as the 2025 cafe standards are "outrageously" insane!

Originally Posted by yormaX

Resale value will drop overtime when Toyota/Subaru
decides to make a Generation 2 FR-S, BRZ.
Things like tweaks to the engine and a face lift from time to time.

true! gotta remember! it's a car and is subject to improvements over time to keep it competitive,and desirable for it's intended purpose.

[Xenocide117]

Originally Posted by FRiSson

Sales is only a part of the issue. Subaru is going to have to get vastly better fuel economy. It doesn't have the cash to compete with the big players and fuel economy is a real weakness for the firm.

I think that just comes with the territory of AWD. Do they have any part time AWD systems?

[russv]

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

when i bought, i never intended on selling, she will be in my stables for a LONG time

but in all seriousness, the BRZ; less of them being made in the us, higher quality, higher msrp, more options, ect, ect

Not sure I agree about the higher quality. Essentially the same car.

[helloimgil]

I would imagine public perception would play a small role into this - hence Subaru getting getting a premium. There were times at the gas station where someone would come up and say oh that's the Subaru version! (and without having looked at the front bumper) its SoooOOoOoOo much nicer, wow look at that better body style, /walksaroundcar, Yeah, it's so much better than the Scion and it's all wheel drive right?


With that aside, I do have to say that the alcantra leather, toggle switches, climate control, heated seats, HIDs are a very nice upgrade on the limited BRZ and should also factor into resale value.

[raul]

Originally Posted by Tanuki

The limited is a nicer interior, the premium really is not. The FRS floor mats are much nicer than limited or premium as well.

I would guess that both brands will have an affect on resale values. Which will be worth more? Really hard to say, but I would imagine the Premium and FRS being available will bring the Limited resale down and all three will depreciate pretty equally from there.

This makes the most sense to me.

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by russv

Not sure I agree about the higher quality. Essentially the same car.

the things that decide a better price
auto leveling HIDS
interior fabrics
headlight housing
NAV
ohh yeah and dual climate control

i would consider that better value for 2k more if you did all that stuff aftermarket to the SAME specs it would easily cost you 6k+

[russv]

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

the things that decide a better price
auto leveling HIDS
interior fabrics
headlight housing
NAV
ohh yeah and dual climate control

i would consider that better value for 2k more if you did all that stuff aftermarket to the SAME specs it would easily cost you 6k+

I think we have a differing perspective of quality. I'm thinking in terms of build quality and quality of materials. I think your perspective is that of features. Not disagreeing.

[akuhei]

Originally Posted by russv

I think we have a differing perspective of quality. I'm thinking in terms of build quality and quality of materials. I think your perspective is that of features. Not disagreeing.

Like you said...build quality doesnt change because they are built at the same place. So features and brand will determine the future value.