Manual or Automatic? Why? - Page 8 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

HKz · 08-30-2018, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

I found that unless someone younger than 20 is a car person or a budding gearhead they won't really engage themselves into learning manual

I'd bet if you got a G27 steering wheel + gearbox and a copy of assetto corsa or iracing it'll get them interested ^^ I've been preparing my little boy and a few of my friends' kids

Adam_L · 08-30-2018, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ST185RC

I do ride a fixie, a Bianchi super pista to be exact, which is why I can still mash with the best of them at either the velodrome or on the street. As much as I ride, I still take the time to charge up the batteries and change the cells on my shifters. Again, running out of batteries has never been a concern on my etap bike. If i forget to charge my batteries, I have 3 other steeds running full mech from U8600 to DA9100 to Red22.

No Campagnolo on your steeds ? I'd take Campy over the Red22 DT any day of the week.

ST185RC · 08-30-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam_L

No Campagnolo on your steeds ? I'd take Campy over the Red22 DT any day of the week.

Red22 for the absolute weight advantage. Been a sram guy since double tap. if i wanted soft and cushy i'd go DA. Never considered campy as it's difficult to get replacements parts for it. Not worth it for me as I'm not hipster enough.

The older S-works Tarmac SL4 gets the ultegra treatment, the Cento 10 air gets the DA9100, dogma f10 gets the red22.

I'll leave it up to your imagination what frame I put the etap on.

meadowz06 · 08-31-2018, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky

You two didn't realize you can take your foot off the accelerator and coast out of gear in between using it to control your speed? No wonder you think an auto is easier.

Wow, what a revelation. Thanks!

Tcoat · 08-31-2018, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by meadowz06

Wow, what a revelation. Thanks!

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZEtVbJT5c[/ame]

highway7 · 08-31-2018, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by qcbaker

I'd love to see a video of you getting a manual transmission car to stop and go in traffic without touching any pedals...

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qcbaker · 08-31-2018, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by highway7

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And how exactly are you going to prevent the car from stalling when its stopped without depressing the clutch? You could slip it into neutral I guess, but then you'd have to get it back into first without stalling.

highway7 · 08-31-2018, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by qcbaker

And how exactly are you going to prevent the car from stalling when its stopped without depressing the clutch?

It's in neutral....?

Do you even manual? Serious question

LotsaMiles · 08-31-2018, 11:52 AM

I live in south-central Kentucky and drive 150 miles a day on my commute. Half is on incredibly fun twisties and the other half is I-65 where the average speed is 85mph up until the last three or four miles, where it drops to 70 and, finally, down to bumper to bumper 45 mph the last mile or so.

That's why I drive a stick. I used to commute to downtown Seattle or Bellevue (depending on my contract). If I lived there I would have no desire to own this car. No point. I couldn't really enjoy it enough to make it worth the money without getting hundreds of tickets and losing my license. Out here the concern is deer, not cops. Drift all you want. Heck, going 70 in a 55 near Louisville it is common to get passed by cops.

If I had to do a lot of rush hour, I'd get an automatic, and that automatic would be attached to something cheaper and quieter.

BTW, 152k miles now on my 2013. I'm picking up my 8th set of tires next month when Costco puts the Michelin PSS's on sale again.

qcbaker · 08-31-2018, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by highway7

It's in neutral....?

Do you even manual? Serious question

Are you actually implying that because you can put a car in neutral and coast downhill and brake using the e-brake only, that that means that, as a general statement, "You don't have to use the pedals in stop and go traffic in a manual car" is a fact?

Yes, technically there is a single scenario in which you can "drive" in stop and go traffic using no pedals. But you could just do the same thing in an auto lol

Tcoat · 08-31-2018, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by qcbaker

Are you actually implying that because you can put a car in neutral and coast downhill and brake using the e-brake only, that that means that, as a general statement, "You don't have to use the pedals in stop and go traffic in a manual car" is a fact?

Yes, technically there is a single scenario in which you can "drive" in stop and go traffic using no pedals. But you could just do the same thing in an auto lol

There is a whole class of racing dedicated to doing just that!

HimBRZ · 08-31-2018, 02:15 PM

Manual because life is too short.

BellaItalia · 09-15-2018, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DC86

For any and all you guys and girls who got their 86s and chose manual or automatic transmissions, why did you choose it?

a stick, matches the oldness of my rotary phone, lol. seriously: twistys, bliping the throttle, downshifting, holding a gear longer, releasing a gear when i want it to...all one with the machine. although we drive the wife's auto on a trip, haha

Dadhawk · 09-15-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BellaItalia

a stick, matches the oldness of my rotary phone, lol. seriously: twistys, bliping the throttle, downshifting, holding a gear longer, releasing a gear when i want it to...all one with the machine. although we drive the wife's auto on a trip, haha

With the exception of blipping the throttle, I do all that with my AT all the time.

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08-31-2018, 11:52 AM	#107
LotsaMiles Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Drives: Scion FR-s, xB, iA, Silverado Z71 4 Location: Kentucky Posts: 179 Thanks: 20 Thanked 119 Times in 82 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I live in south-central Kentucky and drive 150 miles a day on my commute. Half is on incredibly fun twisties and the other half is I-65 where the average speed is 85mph up until the last three or four miles, where it drops to 70 and, finally, down to bumper to bumper 45 mph the last mile or so. That's why I drive a stick. I used to commute to downtown Seattle or Bellevue (depending on my contract). If I lived there I would have no desire to own this car. No point. I couldn't really enjoy it enough to make it worth the money without getting hundreds of tickets and losing my license. Out here the concern is deer, not cops. Drift all you want. Heck, going 70 in a 55 near Louisville it is common to get passed by cops. If I had to do a lot of rush hour, I'd get an automatic, and that automatic would be attached to something cheaper and quieter. BTW, 152k miles now on my 2013. I'm picking up my 8th set of tires next month when Costco puts the Michelin PSS's on sale again.

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HimBRZ Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited Location: Elvisland Posts: 58 Thanks: 4 Thanked 37 Times in 18 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Manual because life is too short.

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