E85 experience + few questions - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Blue Bird · 09-15-2017, 02:35 AM

I am currently running Stage 2 OFT + UEL Headers. Is E85 going to give that extra kick? Stage 2 to me isn't much faster than stock.

2 Questions:
1. I don't really need a flex flue kit since the bay area has e85 that is consistent right?

2. Cold start is not an issue since the Bay won't be that cold ever?

FirstWinter · 09-15-2017, 02:50 AM

It's better to run a flex fuel kit. You'll be fine with cold starts. You might have to crank it a little longer during winter but you'll be able to start.

PMok · 09-15-2017, 03:50 AM

E85 is going to give you that same kind of kick as Stage 2... so if you aren't that impressed by Stage 2... well I dunno, maybe you better look into some boost.

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matchamochi · 09-15-2017, 04:30 AM

when I'm not running e85 vs 91 is a very noticeable difference.

When I'm running 91 on just headers for when I know I'm going to road-trips or something it's very sad.

e85 pulls so much harder and honestly I regret pulling the trigger this long.

robotleader · 09-15-2017, 02:16 PM

is there a lot of e85 stations in the bay?

JoeeStacks · 09-15-2017, 03:00 PM

http://www.pearsonfuels.com/stations...xoCCw4QAvD_BwE

PMok · 09-15-2017, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robotleader

is there a lot of e85 stations in the bay?

I recommend the Propel stations ... there aren't a lot of them, but if you live along the 880 corridor there are a number of them.

https://propelfuels.com/locations

fang_gt86 · 09-15-2017, 06:57 PM

You won't feel the difference with stop and go traffic. It's night and day if you push it.

Ty86 · 09-16-2017, 12:11 AM

flex fuel kit is recommended, I got one for sale

edwardleeaf · 09-16-2017, 02:32 AM

I think its a big change from 91-->85. Definitely the kick you'll need if you want it. If you can live with 14mpg then do it.

Ty86 · 09-16-2017, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardleeaf

I think its a big change from 91-->85. Definitely the kick you'll need if you want it. If you can live with 14mpg then do it.

The mpg isnt that bad, NA e85 I got around 18~20.
im around 16 now with a turbo lol.

matchamochi · 09-16-2017, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fang_gt86

You won't feel the difference with stop and go traffic. It's night and day if you push it.

I don't think that's true at all 2nd and 3rd gear pull so much harder.

enouf · 09-16-2017, 04:39 AM

I'm on UEL headers and flex fuel and it's quite noticeable when I'm not on E85. When I'm on petrol I have to give it more oomph to keep up with traffic whereas on E85 I never seem to go over 3.5k rpm to keep pace. To me it feels like a small V6 when I'm on E85, even if it's a bad comparison.

Jacobleungg · 09-16-2017, 12:54 PM

Flex fuel kits are very much worth the investment. Before flexfuel, I loaded a fa20club stage 2 e85 (non flexfuel) tune into my car with just a smidge of 91, and put e85 from the fremont propel station in, and the car leaned out, didnt run well at all, and I had an overall miserable experience. Once I went flexfuel (delicious tuning flexfuel kit w their stg2 tune), all of my worries of not having stations to go to, inconsistencies of e85 stations, ect went away. The best part is that I can run 91 during the work week and fill up in e85 for the weekend canyon drives!

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09-15-2017, 02:35 AM	#1
Blue Bird Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: '14 BRZ Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 38 Thanks: 22 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	E85 experience + few questions I am currently running Stage 2 OFT + UEL Headers. Is E85 going to give that extra kick? Stage 2 to me isn't much faster than stock. 2 Questions: 1. I don't really need a flex flue kit since the bay area has e85 that is consistent right? 2. Cold start is not an issue since the Bay won't be that cold ever?

09-15-2017, 03:50 AM	#3
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09-15-2017, 02:50 AM	#2
FirstWinter Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Drives: Car Location: Location Posts: 646 Thanks: 374 Thanked 422 Times in 254 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's better to run a flex fuel kit. You'll be fine with cold starts. You might have to crank it a little longer during winter but you'll be able to start.

09-15-2017, 04:30 AM	#4
matchamochi Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: swp brz Location: San Jose Posts: 177 Thanks: 45 Thanked 56 Times in 39 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	when I'm not running e85 vs 91 is a very noticeable difference. When I'm running 91 on just headers for when I know I'm going to road-trips or something it's very sad. e85 pulls so much harder and honestly I regret pulling the trigger this long.

09-15-2017, 02:16 PM	#5
robotleader Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Drives: brzzzz Location: nor cal Posts: 54 Thanks: 6 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	is there a lot of e85 stations in the bay?

09-16-2017, 12:11 AM	#9
Ty86 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Drives: 2013 Location: California Posts: 23 Thanks: 8 Thanked 19 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	flex fuel kit is recommended, I got one for sale

09-16-2017, 02:32 AM	#10
edwardleeaf Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Drives: Fr-s Location: Milpitas CA Posts: 30 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think its a big change from 91-->85. Definitely the kick you'll need if you want it. If you can live with 14mpg then do it.

09-16-2017, 04:39 AM	#13
enouf Mr. Grumpy Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 86 GT, Fuji Red, MT Location: Melbourne Posts: 242 Thanks: 360 Thanked 205 Times in 92 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm on UEL headers and flex fuel and it's quite noticeable when I'm not on E85. When I'm on petrol I have to give it more oomph to keep up with traffic whereas on E85 I never seem to go over 3.5k rpm to keep pace. To me it feels like a small V6 when I'm on E85, even if it's a bad comparison.

09-16-2017, 12:54 PM	#14
Jacobleungg Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: 2013 Subaru Brz Limited Location: Fremont, Ca Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Flex fuel kits are very much worth the investment. Before flexfuel, I loaded a fa20club stage 2 e85 (non flexfuel) tune into my car with just a smidge of 91, and put e85 from the fremont propel station in, and the car leaned out, didnt run well at all, and I had an overall miserable experience. Once I went flexfuel (delicious tuning flexfuel kit w their stg2 tune), all of my worries of not having stations to go to, inconsistencies of e85 stations, ect went away. The best part is that I can run 91 during the work week and fill up in e85 for the weekend canyon drives! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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