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Old 06-10-2016, 12:53 AM   #1
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Stuck Between Gruppe-S or JDL

Hey guys! I'm looking at purchasing a UEL Header for my 2016 BRZ. I wanted to get some of your opinions on which one is a better header or if both are great headers. I will be getting an EcuTek tune as well but I don't think that matters in my choice of headers. Thank you!
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Old 06-10-2016, 01:17 AM   #2
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Hey guys! I'm looking at purchasing a UEL Header for my 2016 BRZ. I wanted to get some of your opinions on which one is a better header or if both are great headers. I will be getting an EcuTek tune as well but I don't think that matters in my choice of headers. Thank you!

Gruppe S is honestly the best bang for the buck, but they both are really good in build quality. When my CNT rusts to crap I'll be getting the gruppe for sure.
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I can tell you that you'll probably be happy with either. I have the JDL UEL and I love the sound and performance, and the construction is as good as it gets. Not sure what the warranty is on the Gruppe S but keep in mind JDL has a lifetime warranty to original owner.
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Gruppe-S is literally a Tomei header without the badge. It'll do just fine, but I went with the JDL for several reasons:

-Made in the USA
-Beautiful welds and excellent merge collector
-Lifetime warranty (no such warranty for Tomei/Gruppe-S)
-I don't like supporting third-shift/gray-market goods

Edit: it sounds damn good, too.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnEYvkiW5k0"]BRZ w/ JDL UEL & Perrin resonated drive by - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1kyhCzlx-o"]BRZ w/ JDL UEL & Perrin resonated 2.5" revving - YouTube[/ame]

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I like my Gruppe-s header...

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPZI8vBTdrw"]Scion FRS UEL Headers - Gruppe-S & Ark Grip Catback-Start and Rev's - YouTube[/ame]

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[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSaQRZ6RMKc"]Gruppe S Unequal Length Header (UEL) FRS/BRZ Comparison - YouTube[/ame]
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Where do they sell the Gruppe-S header?
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Where do they sell the Gruppe-S header?
message @Gruppe-s on the forums.
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I went with JDL for the same reasons that @kch mentioned. JDL (and Nameless Performance) put out some quality Made in USA stuff for our platform. The Gruppe/Tomei still looks like a solid product and a lower price. A friend of mine runs the Tomei with OFT for the last 2.5yrs and has had no issues. In the end it depends on your budget, but both are solid choices.
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With any purchase of headers, need to buy gaskets and bolts separetly?
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With any purchase of headers, need to buy gaskets and bolts separetly?
it depends on which one you buy as each company is different. the Gruppe-S comes with gaskets and all the hardware needed (plus some extra)
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it depends on which one you buy as each company is different. the Gruppe-S comes with gaskets and all the hardware needed (plus some extra)
I can confirm JDL comes with gaskets and hardware as well.

There are solid arguments for both headers (Gruppe-S seems like great value for the price). Personally I went with JDL because of the lifetime warranty and build quality, but I could understand if someone went with Gruppe-S too.
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