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Old 03-11-2014, 06:27 PM   #3753
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Will this work with the Kraftwerks supercharger?
possibly not since the KW adds a second pulley to the end of the stock crank pulley
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Old 03-11-2014, 06:42 PM   #3754
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has anyone independently dyno'd one of these yet?
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Old 03-11-2014, 06:53 PM   #3755
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Will this work with the Kraftwerks supercharger?
I'd say it's a safe bet to say no. This header runs too close to the crank pulley to be able to a second ring to it. Also, the KW compressor appears to sit lower. I'd bet the compressor and the header would be trying to share the same space.
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Old 03-11-2014, 07:03 PM   #3756
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Look at this angle in your car. Looks like there's plenty of clearance for the airbox, but if you have the resonator attached that hangs down, then I believe you'll have to remove it.

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Excellent pictures, @14BRZ

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(from @*LongFella at this thread)

it looks like it (JRSC) will fit with the Nameless header, @Calum?
This pic has is what has me worried. Even if they aren't trying to share the same space, I fear there would only be a couple mm between them. The rotrex compressors need an oil cooler already, I wouldn't want that constant heat source sitting that close. And after looking again, I don't think a heat shield would work. The heat shield would have to work with the air flow on the back side of the radiator and carry the heat under the engine and away from the compressor, not just sit there and hope to be a good insulator. There just doesn't seem to be enough distance between the crank pulley and the header.

I'm thinking the only super charger system this header would work with is the Innovate. While the 220+ has me intrigued, the lack of QC has me worried.
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Old 03-11-2014, 07:10 PM   #3757
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@Calum maybe it's the angles in the picture, but it looks like the runner comes up to the top edge of crank pulley - the Rotrex unit in that kit seems to sit fairly higher, say about an inch or two. Though really this just tells me we need someone to mark where the edge of the runner is at its highest and where the lowest point of the Jackson unit is.

Owners, is the runner from the header passing ABOVE the crank pulley's top edge?
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Old 03-11-2014, 08:06 PM   #3758
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Owners, is the runner from the header passing ABOVE the crank pulley's top edge?
Just installed mine. The tube closest to the crank pulley is at most half an inch higher than the top edge of the pulley. The tube closer to the radiator comes up higher but not even to the level of the top of the pulley nearest to crank pulley on the passenger side. From the last pic above it should clear fairly comfortably.

Now to wait for @mad_sb to help everyone out with cam phasing
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Old 03-11-2014, 08:15 PM   #3759
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Looks nice, but a bit concerning with regards to temps. I assume ceramic coating will help with this? Whats the outlet size on the over-pipe section?
The outlet size on the overpipe is 3", but they have gaskets to mate it into a 3" or 2.5" system included with it, so it doesn't matter.
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Old 03-11-2014, 08:52 PM   #3760
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Most of these questions have been answered already or the pics I posted show clearance for most setups. Of the people that ordered them, we're not gonna have every possible combo of intakes or superchargers with this header, so wait for somebody to post pics of an install before asking if it will fit with any other intake or supercharger. We simply DO NOT know yet.

Best I can explain as far as space it occupies is; the secondary closest to the engine sits about 1/2-3/4 above the crank pulley. That secondary also sits about 1 inch to the right of the crank pulley at its farthest point. The secondary behind it sits a tad higher and more to the left. So if you have a fitment question, go back a few pages and read these helpful posts on here and go outside and take a look at your engine bay to see if what you have will fit.

As far at temps, I did a canyon run Sunday with temps about 85+ and I beat on the car hard. Didn't pass operating temp at all. I do have an oil cooler so it helps, but for a very hot track day, an oil cooler and possibly aftermarket radiator will keep it from running any hotter than it should. I feel, even living in socal, that the ceramic coating is still not needed.

Once again, on my install it was not necessary at all to lift the engine. I just moved the passenger side fan connection out of the way and moved the overpipe back a few inches and it fit just fine.

To the person who asked what the outlet size is, it has literally been posted in the last 15-20 pages about 10 times, so I will not answer that question.

I may have some dyno charts to post by Friday, we'll see
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headers, downpipe, and midpipe got here today. everything looks great guys. thanks again for an awesome product and great customer service!


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@Calum maybe it's the angles in the picture, but it looks like the runner comes up to the top edge of crank pulley - the Rotrex unit in that kit seems to sit fairly higher, say about an inch or two. Though really this just tells me we need someone to mark where the edge of the runner is at its highest and where the lowest point of the Jackson unit is.

Owners, is the runner from the header passing ABOVE the crank pulley's top edge?
I just realized the angle in this picture...

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Old 03-11-2014, 10:21 PM   #3763
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Looks nice, but a bit concerning with regards to temps. I assume ceramic coating will help with this? Whats the outlet size on the over-pipe section?
The ceramic coating helps a lot. I anticipate most heat build up will come during dd in traffic. I have only noticed temp increaseing to 208 degrees during my morning and afternoon commutes. Once traffic picks up all is normal.

I am interested to find out what temps people observe without coating.
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Depending on the aluminum content of the coating it can actually increase heat radiation. If you get a low aluminum ceramic coating it will help. Also black objects radiate heat faster than other colors.
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The ceramic coating helps a lot. I anticipate most heat build up will come during dd in traffic. I have only noticed temp increaseing to 208 degrees during my morning and afternoon commutes. Once traffic picks up all is normal.

I am interested to find out what temps people observe without coating.
Ill do some datalogs tomorrow to find out exactly what the oil and coolant temps reach. I'm uncoated
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headers, downpipe, and midpipe got here today. everything looks great guys. thanks again for an awesome product and great customer service!


I see header, fp/op and whats the one with the flex joint?
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