Supra (Toyota/BMW) vs. FT86 (Toyota/Subaru)

[Lantanafrs2]

If my frs had enough torque to spin a hamster wheel, I'd have no problem with an auto.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

If my frs had enough torque to spin a hamster wheel, I'd have no problem with an auto.

Change gears! That is why there are more than one of them.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by RRnold

I understand your distrust as I feel the same way with the mainstream media in the U.S. However, this question of a manual transmission availability is a direct question that language barriers would not be an issue; yes or no? If it was in the pipeline, it would have been announced. That guy lost some cool points with me when he said he didn't like the NA/NA2 NSX, Skyline GTR's and TE37's.

I still want to believe in good old Toyota fashion, just like the MKIV, the MKV Supra will also be built for an easy conversion.

Another example, Tada-san talked about the vents and their function. The way I interpreted it was that the vents are fake (non functional) until you pop off the covers and "kustomize" it when you "because race car" as least for the door and hood vents.

I really hope they go as far as Porsche where they offer functional vents or offer the proper ducting that mount to the body and look OEM.

He can't say squat until the marketing team say so so the indirect answers to direct questions are proper protocol. They have formally said there will indeed be a MT. The catch is it will only be attached to the 4 which will not come to North America.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Change gears! That is why there are more than one of them.

I raced motorcycle for 20 years. I know how to change gears lol. Turbo kit next mod

[JIM THEO]

Originally Posted by krayzie

You sure it's European Drivers or the European Union?

I mean they can't even buy incandescent light bulbs over there.

Good point, yes EU drivers

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

He can't say squat until the marketing team say so so the indirect answers to direct questions are proper protocol. They have formally said there will indeed be a MT. The catch is it will only be attached to the 4 which will not come to North America.

Of course, that's the protocol. Now that the 86/BRZ are sayonara, he can finally kiss his 86's-in-manual excuse out the window. Woohoo, more rumors on top of rumors and rehashed news for you to sink your teeth in...

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/news...ed/#more-72058

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/01/29/...ssor-canceled/

Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ successor canceled?
Four-cylinder Supra and electric MR2 could take its place at Toyota

Rumors indicate that the Toyota 86 is done for. Japanese Nostalgic Car is quoting Japanese sources as saying Toyota and Subaru have parted ways regarding the 86 and that the current car's replacement is off the table. According to JNC, the Japanese magazine Best Car is readying a report that the 86/BRZ successor has been canceled. JNC also considers the fact that in Japan, there will be a four-cylinder, 197-horsepower version of the new Supra, ready to continue where the 86 will leave the market.

Back in 2016 the automaker seemingly confirmed that a replacement for the rear-drive car was under development, but plans can change and with a cheaper Supra version for sale in markets outside the U.S., we have to wonder if the 86 replacement has been shelved. The 86, while balanced, has only received mild enhancements and not a lot of extra power during its near-decade long time on the market, and it isn't such a strong seller that it would necessarily merit the effort of Toyota developing a successor on its own, particularly without the help of a partner like Subaru or BMW.

At the same time, Autocar quotes Toyota boss Akio Toyoda on the Supra: "At the end of the day, is there anything better than a tight rear-wheel-drive sports car? I hope this won't be the last Toyota sports car you see from us in the future." While that is far from a solid statement of Toyota's future intent, it paves the way to offerings below the Supra, and shows how much the company boss cares about driver involvement. There is a distinct possibility that the company will re-introduce the MR2 as an electrified, rear-drive sports car – which could still be a joint venture with Subaru, as Japanese Nostalgic Cartheorizes. Whatever's in the pipeline – and we hope there is something in the pipeline – it seems Toyota's heart is in the right place: driving the rear wheels.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by RRnold

Of course, that's the protocol. Now that the 86/BRZ are sayonara, he can finally kiss his 86's-in-manual excuse out the window.

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/news...ed/#more-72058

One headline with no context does not mean a thing. You won't believe Tada but this is acceptable. That is the finest example of bad journalism there is!


Unless of course you were using sarcasm font and I missed it then never mind.




LOL
Best Car prints a headline teaser


Nostalgic car takes it a bit further based on that teaser - "The automotive tabloid Best Car is prepared to report in their upcoming February 26 issue"


Autoblog goes full retard and makes up shit - "Japanese Nostalgic Car is quoting Japanese sources"

[WolfpackS2k]

This would go against Toyota's stance of having "3 brothers".

Would be disappointing. I'd really really love a 2nd gen BRZ with the 2.4.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

This would go against Toyota's stance of having "3 brothers".

Would be disappointing. I'd really really love a 2nd gen BRZ with the 2.4.

The statement was "we would like to see three brothers".
It was the press that changed it to say "we will make three brothers".
And even if there are three brothers that doesn't mean it will be outside of Japan.

[WolfpackS2k]

Don't crush my hopes and dreams Tcoat.


Not again

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Don't crush my hopes and dreams Tcoat.


Not again