Non-Coilover option for racecar

[Flat Black VW]

Hi all,

My race team has a 2013 FRS we are running and we currently have rebound/height adjustable MCS Coilovers. One of the series we run (ChampCar) does penalty points based on mods, and these coilovers score us a ton of points and penalty laps.

We are looking for a sort of cup kit alternative that would save us the points for when we run Champ. I don’t see any full kits, so am mostly wondering if anyone here has experience with different shock/spring combos on track.

Thanks!

[whataboutbob]

I'd start here: https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45554

[Racecomp Engineering]

Bilstein B6 + RCE Yellow is one option.

Zdan uses B6 + Swift Spec R springs.

Are you allowed to run camber plates?

- Andrew

[Flat Black VW]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Bilstein B6 + RCE Yellow is one option.

Zdan uses B6 + Swift Spec R springs.

Are you allowed to run camber plates?

- Andrew

Thanks!

We are, and we do. They are 20 pts per pair, 10 points=1 penalty lap per 8 hours of racing.

The MCS coils were getting us 140 points total, a spring/shock combo would be at most 20 points total.

Rules on spring replacement:

“Suspension Springs, non-OE coil springs are 5-points per corner
- Exemption: Vehicles may replace OE coil springs for 0-points provided that the replacement spring:
▪ Is the same shape as the OE spring (straight, frustum, beehive/keg, etc.).
▪ Maintains the exact same ID/OD measurements as the OE spring (+/- 0.25”) when measured at the midpoint and at each end of the spring
▪ Springs may be cut and/or used with spacers (spring rubbers) for no additional points
▪ Shape and measurements must match when the springs are in their original
unaltered condition”

Not sure if any of your suggested meet the exemption reqs.

[jflogerzi]

I ran OEM 2017+ dampers with peddlers top hats non adjustable and RCE yellows on track. Pretty solid combo. Add camber bolts for more camber if wanted/needed

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[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW

Thanks!

We are, and we do. They are 20 pts per pair, 10 points=1 penalty lap per 8 hours of racing.

The MCS coils were getting us 140 points total, a spring/shock combo would be at most 20 points total.

Rules on spring replacement:

“Suspension Springs, non-OE coil springs are 5-points per corner
- Exemption: Vehicles may replace OE coil springs for 0-points provided that the replacement spring:
▪ Is the same shape as the OE spring (straight, frustum, beehive/keg, etc.).
▪ Maintains the exact same ID/OD measurements as the OE spring (+/- 0.25”) when measured at the midpoint and at each end of the spring
▪ Springs may be cut and/or used with spacers (spring rubbers) for no additional points
▪ Shape and measurements must match when the springs are in their original
unaltered condition”

Not sure if any of your suggested meet the exemption reqs.

Our RCE Yellows or Swift Spec Rs should fit that criteria. Those are the only 2 springs I'd consider really for your uses at least.

And yeah, the OEM PP dampers do work well too if you have a set laying around or can find a low mileage set for cheap, but the Bilsteins are better and can take more heat.

- Andrew

[meWant]

Depending on how soon you need the springs, I may have a set of RCE Yellows coming off my car hopefully within the next month or so

[marco_mc22]

I still love my Oem 2017 Base dampers, how many points for sway bars and camber plates? IMO those dampers with a decent camber and a big front bar work really well plus they’ll be easy on tires.

[norcalpb]

The stiffest springs for our cars I believe are the RCE Tarmacs (my springs by discontinued), but unfortunately no springs that go over 300 pounds.

[G-Man]

depending on how much money you want to spend I think you can put stock spring mounts on the MCS you have. not sure if that is still legal in your class, but it works for SCCA SOLO.



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